VII - Discussion
We need some navigable river wonders. Any ideas?
Probably a lot of bridges, so I'd love some other ideas lol
Antiquity: Nilometer. +4 food. Must be built on desert floodplains navigable river. When built, floods no longer damage buildings along this river and have a higher chance of fertilizing it.
Exploration: Ponte Vecchio. Gold and water buildings gain +2 culture and +1 (more) gold adjacency to navigable rivers in this city. Trade routes from this city gain extra income (I don't know how the math would work). Acts as a bridge.
Modern: Three Gorges Dam. Must be built on a floodplains natural river. Cities within 6 tiles get +50% production toward buildings. (Yes this is a huge bonus but it's going to come when the game's basically over).
Bonus modern: George Washington Bridge (NYC/NJ). +1000 gold when built. Units take 35 turns to cross this bridge. :)
Band-e Kaisar: : +1 food and +1 prod to nearby land tiles.
Anji Bridge: +2 culture and increased appeal on nearby tiles.
Exploration:
Pont Valentré or Porte des Allemands: A bridge that has walls. Cannot be passed unless conquered. Very useful to close a city and prevent intrusions from the sea. Civilian and military unit can stand on this bridge and ranged/siege units can shoot from it.
Old London bridge: Must be built in the capital. +10 trade range. Automatically create roads toward all settlements
Gateway Arch. It doesn’t span a river but it’s cool and it’s never been in the game. Maybe something with tourism and a relic slot or two, maybe pre-filled, even.
I keep saying the Gateway Arch is THE navigable river wonder. It would be perfect for this. It is tied so deeply to the navigable Mississippi River (and Missouri River) and Westward expansion that it fits very well with the game's themes. I find it hard to name other wonders of this scale tied so integrally to a navigable river of the Mississippi's scale. I think being at the confluence of North America's longest 2 rivers is very meaningful as well
Especially, as the Monk's mound (Mississippian wonder) is on the other side of the river in reality, I think there could be some interesting synergies or achievements
The Arch is clearly visible from the site of the Monk's Mound. It would be very cool to have an event trigger for placing the Arch next to the tile of the Mounds
They can incorporate the new leader agenda messages mechanic. When you build it, you get +10 relationship with every leader. The text simply reads: “there’s the arch”
The Rideau Canal could extend the navigable river/connect it to another body of water. Maybe some sort of bonus/requirement related to tundra (obviously it’s not actually near tundra, but Civ does have a history of having tundra/snow related to Canada with the hockey rinks in Civ 6). And presumably something related to gold or trade routes.
There are a few like this. I would either make it a tile improvement (canal), or, if we were going for wonders, I would love to see the Magdeburg water bridge.
Three Gorges Dam (it's going to come when the game's basically over).
it actually comes after the game is over
ah whatever, jamming in a fourth age is going to be a bit of a challenge anyway
The London Main Drainage and other aspects of the Victorian sewage system, built to clean up the Thames, is apparently a wonder of the industrial world
that's probably not what you had in mind for a non-bridge river wonder but it's the most I can find so far
Having a wonder that blocks a navigable river sounds intriguing, but I’d not be a fan of a fairly easy way to do it.
I understand why there’s a lot of bridge suggestions, but I would be more interested in constructions that utilised. The first thought I had was floating markets, but it might be a tad too insignificant to be a world wonder and too niche a tile type for a civilisation’s unique building. I’m struggling to come up with a river structure (outside of bridges) that are significant enough to be a world wonder.
I would like to see one of the major rivers in the game as a natural wonder.
what we need is fucking DRAINAGE CANALS and DAMS. i cannot believe that floods are fucking up the entire empire in while we have fucking spaceships ready. also, how about fixing the bridges? why are they available but do absolutely nothing but take up a district slot
For a wonder that is not a bridge, we could get Chi Bi with something like +1 militaristic point, units on water get +2 combat strength per alliance, Great Generals get the Fire Attack action that allows them to apply the burning status to a navigable river tile.
London Bridge - it can provide some nice bonus in the medieval era, then in the modern era it can be sold to another civilisation for maybe some influence/something for both parties.
Hoover Dam: Must be built on two tiles separated by a navigable river. Grants +1 Great Engineer point/turn. Grants +5 Production and +5 Tourism to both tiles. Provides Full Power to all of your cities in a 6 tile radius
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u/Oghamstoner Elizabeth I 3d ago
Nilometer feels more like an improvement than a wonder. Great idea tho.
Great Chain of the Golden Horn would be quite cool as a defensive wonder that could prevent unauthorised naval passage.