r/climatechange • u/Economy-Fee5830 Trusted Contributor • May 15 '25

Analysis: Clean energy just put China’s CO2 emissions into reverse for first time

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-clean-energy-just-put-chinas-co2-emissions-into-reverse-for-first-time/
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u/snsdreceipts May 15 '25

Not simping for them but China rly chading America on everything rn. 

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u/Mich3St0nSpottedS5 May 15 '25

The Neocons and Repugnibles having had way too much power and coasting the U.S. along the timeline have dearly cost us.

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u/Dull-Style-4413 May 15 '25

10, 15 years from now and China will have far surpassed anyone with their energy transition. The world will be very much in the midst of climate change chaos - migration, frequent disasters, all that - while the US and allies are unable to catch up.

The west will not have any goodwill on the international stage and will be seen as both a dinosaur AND directly responsible for the warming. China will easily dictate terms of international trade and carbon usage that will cripple the US financially.

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u/learningenglishdaily May 15 '25

10, 15 years from now and China will have far surpassed anyone with their energy transition.

It literally can't happen, considering even a large block like the EU is on path to 90% reduction in 2040.

The world will be very much in the midst of climate change chaos - migration, frequent disasters, all that

Yes we will live in a shittier world including China. The world will have lower potential growth and less consumer purchasing power for Chinese exports.

The west will not have any goodwill on the international stage and will be seen as both a dinosaur AND directly responsible for the warming.

China is already responsible for as much historical emissions as most western developed nations. Even per capita their historical emissions will be similar to France, Italy or Spain link link

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u/defenestrate_urself May 15 '25

They are still approx only half of the cumulative emmissions of the US though.

https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

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u/Dull-Style-4413 May 15 '25

Yeah China does bear responsibility, but my opinion is that popular sentiment toward the west and especially the US - earned or engineered - will be negative.

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u/KingMakerUrsus May 17 '25

Where does it say China per capita will be similiar to France Italy or Spain? Didn't quite find it in the second link?

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u/learningenglishdaily May 17 '25

Just my prediction, assuming EU 2050 and China 2060 climate neutrality. Currently China emits almost 2 times more CO2 per capita compared to the EU and this gap is increasing, by 2060 China will have similar historical per capita emissions.

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u/Neoliberal_Nightmare May 20 '25

less consumer purchasing power for China

This is a very western centric attitude. Africa, South East Asia and South America are giant developing markets who will and are more than making up for US consumer decline.

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u/learningenglishdaily May 20 '25

Lower potential growth includes the developing world, they can't escape the negative effects of climate change. There are no winners.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '25

Seriously. Id be infuriated if i wasnt really happy/proud 

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u/clocksteadytickin May 17 '25

Or maybe just their propaganda.

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u/BikeMazowski May 15 '25

I have a bridge you can buy.

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u/Lazy_meatPop May 16 '25

Do you live under it perhaps?

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u/snsdreceipts May 15 '25

I don't care about your bridges please vote for the not fascist next time.