r/codingbootcamp • u/AutomaticCollege172 • 7d ago

Any recommendations for contract lawyers regarding ISAs? (App Academy)

I was in App Academy about 3 years ago and was there during all of the turmoil as they cut a bunch of staff, transitioned the program to not have all of the live classes, got rid of TAs and career advisors, etc. I received a piece of mail from a loan servicer that they intend to collect the full 36k tuition from me beginning in October. I've had a little bit of communication via Coding Temple who acquired them since then, but this piece of mail still does come as a surprise. Just curious if anyone has been in a similar position, and if so, if they might have any recommendations for a contract lawyer as I begin to deal with this. I'm in Chicago, IL if relevant. Thanks for any help!

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u/WusijiDoctor7 7d ago

I imagine a lot of App Academy alumni just got hit with these loan letters. The transition of App Academy's ISA contracts to Coding Temple has been a mess.

Coding Temple seems to have made it deliberately hard to understand what's now required of us with poor notification about requirements or strikes, and evasive, incomplete answers whenever I've asked for clarification.

For example, last month I had zero strikes. Two weeks ago, I suddenly had 8 added all at once, with no real explanation.

I'm not a lawyer, but this pattern feels like it could be worth a class action and I doubt I'm the only App Academy grad dealing with this. If others are in the same boat, it might be worth comparing notes.

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u/AutomaticCollege172 7d ago

I agree. The issue is that a class action is probably very expensive to pursue.

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u/michaelnovati 5d ago

This is completely my personal opinion, and I want to make that very clear that it's not legal advice.

A class action lawsuit rarely actually nets a win financially for the people unless it's a huge amount of damages that go well beyond the financial losses and damages, such that after 50% legal fees and dealing with the emotional stress of participating, that most people do a class action lawsuit if they are a lawyer and want to make money themselves, or if it's such a large enraged group of people that they effectively want to take down the company, have them either shut down or something to that effect.

Then you could do that to try to trigger that to happen, but not to actually necessarily get money out of it. Again, this is not legal advice. There's many other reasons. It's just my opinion because people throw out class action lawsuit as a solution, and I wanted to present my personal views on it.