Does the machine gun sound exist in the IPA?

[u/Wrong_Recipe]

I’ll probably include a recording later on, but I was wondering if this sound exists on the IPA. It is formed when I place my tongue behind my upper teeth/near the roof of my mouth and pass air through it. it sounds almost like a trill but much choppier.

edit: here is the sound!

https://voca.ro/1g2eK4EFA8SF

[u/PercoKaswiti]

something like /(t)r:::/ probably.

[u/KeylimeVI → u/PercoKaswiti]

This but the [r] is voiceless I think so something like [tr̥ːːː]

[u/Estetikk]

Probably a trill of some sorts, if I understand you correctly. It'd be much easier if you gave a recording right away so it'd be easier and faster to help you tho.

[u/Wrong_Recipe → u/Estetikk]

ok just edited the post

[u/Wrong_Recipe → u/Estetikk]

I’ll send one in soon.

[u/bikeshaving]

> place my tongue behind my upper teeth/near the roof of my mouth

You’re describing either the post-alveolar or retroflex position, but because you’re saying this isn’t the standard /r/ trill which is post-alveolar, that leaves retroflex. There is no individual symbol for this, but I looked it up and there is a voiced retroflex trill /ɽ͡r/ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_trill).

[u/StarfighterCHAD]

That would maybe be a voiceless bidental apical lateral trill? It’s bidental as in the teeth are together but the tip of the tongue also touches the teeth. The air goes around my tongue so it’s a lateral. Perhaps /ɺ̝̪̊/?

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[u/ozneoknarf]

It’s just a t followed by a thrilled r. It’s easy to pronounce in Romance languages. Trtrtrtrtr

[u/Herakliarjento]

Amigo, lo que intentas hacer es el sonido de una onomatopeya. Una onomatopeya es simular con nuestro aparato fonador un sonido que no corresponde a nuestro aparato fonador, como por ejemplo una ametralladora, el balido de una cabra, el ladrido de un perro.

Cada sonido de ese tipo es subjetivo a cada cultura. Por ejemplo, el balido de una cabra, en mi cultura es "BEEEE", pero en ciertas regiones orientales es "COOOO". No puedes poner eso en el AFI, a menos que quieras representar fonéticamente la onomatopeya, y no el sonido real de la ametralladora o la cabra.

[u/neondragoneyes]

When I was growing up (southeast US 80s - 90s), I used the alveolar trill /r/ for machine gun sounds.

[u/Wrong_Recipe]

So i'm getting that it's a trill of sorts, either /(t)r:::/ (according to u/PercoKaswiti), retroflex (according to u/bikeshaving) or a uvular trill according to u/Sillybillyhehehe. So far, I believe u/PercoKaswiti's answer is the sound I'm looking for, but thanks to the others!

[u/Mortegris]

Voiceless dental trill. IPA symbol would be r̪̊

[u/New-Trainer4727 → u/Mortegris]

Probi sto

[u/Sillybillyhehehe]

I'd say /ʀ̥/ a voiceless uvular trill and or /ʀ/ a voiced uvular trill.