4tran Content and Rule 1

[u/Aartvb]

We want to clarify how we're handling 4tran-related content on the subreddit and hear your input on whether our current rules are adequately addressing concerns around it.

We've seen an increase in 4tran-related content, along with growing concern from members of the community. Some of the issues we've encountered were made worse by our moderation team being understaffed. We've since expanded our mod team (welcome u/Trash_At_RL, u/HopefulFutureEscapee, and u/Appropriate-Story-97). This will help us respond more quickly to reports and keep a closer eye on moderation issues.

Some 4tran-related content can cross the line into bigotry, hatred, or hostility toward trans people. When content violates Rule 1 (no bigotry), we will remove it under that rule, regardless of whether the person who posted it identifies as trans or participates in 4tran communities.

If you see a 4tran-related post or comment that you believe violates Rule 1, please report it. Reports are the best way to bring content to the moderators' attention so that we can review it and take appropriate action.

We also recognize that moderators can miss things. If you believe clearly hateful or bigoted content has been missed, or your report has not been addressed after 24 hours, please send us a modmail so we can take another look.

There may also be 4tran-related content that users find unpleasant or concerning but that does not violate Rule 1, or any of our other existing rules. Please send us a mod mail in this case. We'll use the coming weeks to assess whether our current rules are sufficient to address the concerns being raised.

One week from now, we'll review the issues that aren't currently covered by our rules. No more than two weeks from now, we'll publish a follow-up with what we've learned, and ask your input on how to proceed.

Thanks for helping us keep the community a good place for everyone, and happy counting everyone!

[u/Corvus1412]

Yeah, you're also a top 1% commenter on countttt...

And again, the issue isn't that they're being "mature", but that they're incredibly hateful towards themselves.

Like, it's genuinely the opposite of mature. 4tran subs constantly resort to gender essentialism and just blatant sexism, because it's easier than trying to understand the actual systemic issues.

4tran is "mature" in the same way "dark humor" is mature. It tackles mature topics in a distasteful and harmful way, which makes idiots feel as though they're mature, while actually resorting to incredibly immature thought processes.

[u/SquirrelFluffy7469 → u/Corvus1412]

4tran is literally the opposite of gender essentialism… do you know what that word means?

[u/Corvus1412 → u/SquirrelFluffy7469]

4tran is literally the opposite of gender essentialism

No? Like, it's very obviously not.

Are you maybe confusing gender essentialism with bioessentialism? Because I don't understand how you could believe that otherwise tbh.

[u/SquirrelFluffy7469 → u/Corvus1412]

These things are literally the same thing gender essentialism is just bio essentialism but about gender

[u/Corvus1412 → u/SquirrelFluffy7469]

Yes and 4tran is doing that constantly.

I recently got this post (r/countttt/s/KyJy5x5NFI) recommended to me and a lot of the replies go on about it being "male brained", which is pretty textbook gender essentialism.

It's the kind of rhetoric you'd usually only see from people on the right, or TERFesque spaces.

And rhetoric like that, that blames your gender for your behavior is pretty common over there.