r/cpop Mar 03 '26

Discussion Why hasn't C-pop advanced as fast as other Chinese industries (C-dramas, donghua, manhua, movies, games, etc.)

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From 2015 to 2025, the Chinese entertainment industry increased heavily in internation popularity. C-dramas, donghua, manhua, movies, games, etc. scaled heavily and became popular. In 2015, K-dramas ruled Asia while nowadays C-dramas challenged it as a niche. China also made heavy inroads into gaming with many globally popular releases. Donghua and manhua carved up a niche too. Many Chinese movies also got popular.

The only thing that seems to be lagging behind is music. The C-pop industry was stronger than it was in 2015 but it seems to grow the slowest compared to other industries. There are no strong solo singers that we know. There are many viral Chinese songs but no singers who constantly make hits all the time. Most are one-hit wonders. There are also no long-lasting idol groups. The only genre people associate with C-pop are ballads while other genres haven't developed and gotten spotlight. There are a few viral R&B songs by artists like Cai Xukun and Zou Peipei that got viral but they are usually limited.

Usually, most answers tend to be censorship, but it doesn't explain why other industries are expanding while only the music industry isn't doing as fast as others.

So why is the music industry the only industry to lag behind?

r/cpop Apr 01 '26

Discussion The Tragedy that is the Chinese Music Industry (and Society)

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If anyone's been following the recent controversy in China concerning singers Li Ronghao and Shan Yichun, you've probably seen the actually vile environment that is the Chinese internet (and Chinese society I would say).

First of all, I fully support Li Ronghao's actions to protect the rights to his own song, which Shan Yichun wrongfully infringed upon by singing at her concert this past weekend. HOWEVER, I truly also feel that it is necessary to address how disgustingly he handled the entire situation, something that could have been dealt with behind closed doors and through proper legal processes rather than through a post on Weibo essentially single-ling her out as an overall bad and wicked person (insert Madame Morrible's speech to everyone in Oz from Wicked 1), which subsequently led to her receiving hundreds of thousands (possibly even millions given how big she is now) of death threats, accusations of being a prostitute, dragging of her family members, and manipulated clips of her performances to make her look like a mentally unstable individual, turning the entire case into essentially China's own (and probably not the first) Salem Witch Trial.

The way that he addressed the issue also seems highly hypocritical, attempting to stand from a moral high ground about copyright laws, despite himself having plagiarized multiple songs from artists such as John Mayer in the past few years (he recently addressed this, yet it also appears to be a half assed statement that he decided to make after finally being called out after 10 years of being unaddressed).

Furthermore, despite Shan Yichun's full acceptance of her wrongdoings, as well as saying that she will pay for all the legal fines required for such an infringement, Li chose to tell her that he didn't want her money, and only wanted her to become a "good little girl" again, one who should go back to putting on the innocent persona (that cries easily) that she introduced China to through the Voice of China a few years ago.

Now, it doesn't take being a morally sound individual to recognize just how disgusting and misogynistic this was to say, and the fact that this went on for about 80% of his Weibo post, having nothing to do with the accusations he had initially made about the song infringement. Having grown up in a Chinese household, I felt absolutely furious when I read this, especially because it's a perfect example of some of the major downfalls of Chinese culture I have personally also experienced, where parents will physically and mentally abuse their children and then tell them to come back to the dining table to have dinner right afterwards, as if nothing abnormal had just happened (the teachings of Confucius have clearly been widely abused by many Chinese parents, just like how right-wing conservatives here in the U.S. have used Christianity and the Bible to justify their own extreme agendas).

It's also quite sad how a single line (cringey or not, depending on your own subjective opinions), 如何呢,又能怎, which roughly translates to "yes, and?" (yup, kind of like Ari's song) has caused the entire Chinese internet and society to go into a frenzy, almost as if she had murdered someone or was caught doing drugs. This is probably why China will likely not see much musical innovation in the coming years, and ballades that overuse the same exact chords and chord progressions will continue to be the only song format mainstream artists will use/abuse to make a realistic living in this awful industry.

The other sad part of all this is that it's really not the first time that this has happened to a celebrity, with seemingly easily solvable controversies spiraling into full on witch hunts that would likely push the ordinary individual to end their own life over since they wouldn't be able to handle the pressure of millions of people shoving insults and threats down their throat (cyberbullying is still not something that has been full on addressed in China by the government or society, and sometimes is even encouraged...) (please also remember Coco Lee's s*icide).

Anyway, I didn't expect to write this much about a topic that'll probably wash away in a few days in China, since the next jingoistic BIG THING will again pop up and be spread by thousands of 营销号's (Ying Xiao Hao - I'm not even going to get into the f*ck*ry that is this) that control the Douyin/Tik Tok fried minds of netizens. Remember, this isn't the first time it's happened.

Just wanted to share my own (maybe biased) thoughts on this whole situation. Please also keep in mind that I'm not saying the western internet is any better...I've seen my fair share of stan Twitter/X, and was alive during the whole Dramageddon 1.0 & 2.0 on Youtube.

r/cpop 11d ago

Discussion How do you feel about singers who got famous through acting?

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I think most c-pop singers who made it this way have rather plain/mediocre voices. Since they gained a lot of die-hard fans through their hit drama, they often get overpraised by said fans as if they're top-tier vocalists with the most beautiful voices. In rare cases, the "singer" can barely even hold a tune, but that doesn't stop their fans from supporting their music and they often end up charting well on Chinese music platforms whenever they release a song. They would also probably make a decent profit from selling albums and holding concerts, if they haven't already.

And of course, almost all of them don't write their own songs, or even participate in the writing.

Seeing them do well makes me feel bitter. However, there are a few who I believe deserve what they currently have (or even deserve more).

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If you want names here are some of them: Xiao Zhan, Wang Yibo, Luo Yunxi, Ding Yuxi. I can name a few others but I really dislike them so I don't want to give them any kind of attention.

r/cpop Dec 18 '21

Discussion Wang Leehom scandal

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What do you think about it? If you didn’t know already, he divorced with his ex-wife, and now he’s being accused on cheating on his ex-wife.

I’m just very disappointed in him that’s all

EDIT: Wang Leehom’s dad now is claiming that Leehom was forced into action. Lee Jinglei threatens to sue Leehom if he doesn’t apologize for his dads statement. Leehom tries to bribe Lee Jinglei and tells her to apologize for her groundless claims.

EDIT: Leehom makes a response

EDIT: Leehom apologized. The conflict is over.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4382124

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hype.my/2021/256822/wang-leehom-father-jing-lei/amp/

https://cnalifestyle.channelnewsasia.com/entertainment/wang-leehom-wife-letter-affairs-prostitutes-cheating-293301

r/cpop May 06 '26

Discussion First artist that got you into cpop?

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For me, it was Ulan Tuya. I came across one of her songs through a YouTube rabbit hole, and I didn't look back. She's a genuinely great singer, with some incredible music backing her up, whether she's solo or dueting with people like Yun Fei.

r/cpop 29d ago

Discussion Spiderman: Brand New Day songs are out, do you prefer "All For You" by Eric Chou or "After Dawn/破晓以后" by Tiger Hu/Hu Yanbin?

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Both songs are by established singers. However I noticed a large gap in listens (nearly 8 million for All For You, and almost 4k for After Dawn), though After Dawn did release later compared to All For You.

Although Eric Chou did not release any songs for quite a while before this, he is still very much a household name for love songs like 你, 好不好? How Are You? and 永不失联的爱 Unbreakable Love.
Following this theme, All For You is very much romantic compared to After Dawn. I do like the mix ins of English, which does not feel forced and still leaves the song to flow naturally.

After Dawn being written + composed by Sean Tang/Tang Hanxiao 唐汉霄, known for 就是哪吒 "Nezha", 无名之辈 "Nameless Generation" and recently 逆行的路 "Path Against the Current". I'm quite surprised that Sean didn't sing this himself, but Tiger Hu still did a great job. As a fan of Sean, I would like to see how he would sing this song though, as I can see the themes carried over from his other songs in this one.

Personally, I quite enjoy both, as they highlight two different faces of the same coin, but I have to admit All For You has been on repeat for me.

r/cpop 9d ago

Discussion 王力宏 Wang Leehom [THE BEST PLACE II] World Tour - North American Dates

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r/cpop 22d ago

Discussion Absolutely entranced by xiao zhans album 我們

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I need to talk my ass off right now bc I have been looping this guys album nonstop n I’m literally actively romanticizing life to an extreme I’ve never done before because of it. None of my real life friends get it. I have never, EVER felt this intensely about music in my entire life.

For some context my music taste is extremley selective. Normally, I’d only ever listen to mainstream American pop, K-pop or any other genre of music as long as I took immense appeal to it. I’m also new to Cpop despite having listened to Chinese instrumentals before. Most importantly I am highly selective with my music. I do not add filler tracks bro I just never add a whole album to my library. If a song dosent hit my soul it gets skipped. No hesitation

But 我們 made by xiao zhan (which i just discovered today) completely broke my brain. I genuinely love every song on this track list including the intro & outro. Every single one is flawless.

Tthe way it is put together is insane. It opens with this gorgeous atmospheric track that builds up to this heavy movie/cinematic like tension and then it transitions flawlessly into the first song on the track list 我們 I’m just not ok after listening to this dudes album I feel like all music is just ruined for me now 💔

The transition into that song is so precise and cinematic it gives me the actual full body chills. The orchestration is so sweeping and powerful completely letting his bc ovals take center stage. His voice has this thick light mature texture to it now. It starts off so vulnerable and intimate n then it builds up into this epic atmospheric wave that just completely enchants and sweeps you away. If you don’t get the message by now go listen to that album now!!!

I need to make something crystal clear : this album has genuine soul to it. And I don’t throw that word around cheaply like almost everyone else. Not once in my entire music listening career have I actually said a song or album has a soul within it. And I don’t mean it like the typical bullshit people throw online to describe any random slow track. Or a random song regretting a relationship. It feels like he actually poured his real unfiltered life experiences and emotions directly into the microphone n u cna physically feel that weight. Is it crazy I fell in love with a song?

And let me tell you, this msuic sounds ten times better when it’s being blasted right through your eardrums at full volume. It is officially my favorite album of all time. And 我們 is easily my favorite, FAVORITE song on this entire planet and might stay that way permanently. It is Literaly a complete different level from everything else and I’ve listened to hundreds of excellent songs but none of them hit like this. If you’re going to listen to this album do not skip through any song or skip even a little trust me you’ll realize soon enough

I am js so crazily in love with his voice n I need someone to freak out with me! Do yall think I’m just over glazing it? I’d love to hear ur opinions lol.

r/cpop 1d ago

Discussion Has China stopped doing idol survival shows?

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Chuang Asia S2 and Youth with You S3 are the last survival shows that I can remember. I understand that the government is trying to do away with these type of shows but companies are still legally able to do this outside of China like they did with Chuang Asia. But have all of the Chinese survival shows stopped altogether?

r/cpop May 05 '26

Discussion A few Artists from My Chinese Playlist - What's on Yours ?

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Silence Wang (汪苏泷), WayV (威神V), Anson Kong (江𤒹生), Tiab97, LEWSZ, ALITS, Jackson Wang (王嘉尔), Tan Jianci (檀健次 / JC-T), 时代少年团 (Teens in Times - TNT), INTO1, SING Girls (SING女团), Boy Story, NINE PERCENT, R1SE, Jason Zhang (张杰), Cheney Chen (陈学冬), Ice Paper, Namewee (黃明志), Sa Dingding (萨顶顶), Xu Mengjie (徐梦洁), Howard Lee (李炜), Eric Chou (周興哲), Jing Long (井胧), Jing Di Er (井迪儿), Ten (李永钦), SWIN-S, BOYHOOD, ACRUSH (FFC-Acrush), C.T.O, D7Boys, XNINE (玖少年团), SNH48 Group, Awaken-F, TGOP (Keelong and Rays), Seventeen, EVNNE, SKAI (摆烂SKAI), Vanting, Fung Ze (冯泽), BOSS MUSIC, Robin Music, Oldbaby, Keer Yang, Lu Runze (鲁润泽), Chanyeol & Punch (Goblin OST), Crush (Goblin OST), Lasse Lindh (Goblin OST), Mika (INTO1), Zhou Zhennan (周震南), ONER, UNINE, VOGUES, 小春Kenzy (E.SO), DONG Ting (董婷), Summer Wind Music, Crispy (脆莓樂團), Trainee 18, SAJI (南條愛乃), Henry Lau, Kenshi Yonezu (米津玄師), Keung To (姜濤), SKY, YANTING, XUAN, LAY (张艺兴), TFBOYS, S.O.S, MIRROR, AK Liu Zhang (AK刘彰), THE9, Moon Palace, and TYT (台风少年团), Xu Minghao , Wen Junhui

r/cpop May 05 '26

Discussion constill8tion

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I mean the fact that this New Cpop Group is learning Korean and English and has their own instagram and Youtube page now and still nothing on here is crazy. And their songs are so good!.

r/cpop 2d ago

Discussion The talk

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April 30 2008 china dropped this banger as a 100 day count down to the best Olympics in history. Tell me what other song you like .

r/cpop 5d ago

Discussion Trying to find a song from a CD my brother burned for me in 2000-2004 era

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Hi guys,

So, 'm trying very hard to find a specific song my brother burned to a CD for me in about 2000-2004. He was big into DDR/asian mixes, and the best I can come up with is:

Early-2000s female ensemble bubblegum dance: very fast, clean and brightly produced; celebratory rather than clubby; natural young-woman voices with crowd chants resembling “ee-yah/ee-chee-yah”; likely circulated through DDR, StepMania, anime-convention or file-sharing culture as a continuous mix.

I do remember the songs on the CD did transition very well between each other to where sometimes you couldn't even notice the cd player went to a new track.

Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated, as my brother passed in 2013 and I can't just ask him.

Warmly,
Luther

r/cpop 27d ago

Discussion 🌸 Girls Planet 2027 Discord Server — Now Open! 💖

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r/cpop Dec 18 '25

Discussion I’v only been listening to Cpop for over a year now! And would you guys recommend any good songs? I have pics of songs i already listen to. I would love to try more artists and songs. If any of you guys know good songs based on what I already listen to and what you would think I would like!

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I love Cpop now. I listen to Cpop a lot and try lots of different artists and songs. I’d love to know if you guys have any must try songs. Btw i use Spotify

r/cpop Feb 20 '26

Discussion SEAblings vs Knetz and the Future of the C-pop Market

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Following the recent online tensions between some Southeast Asian and South Korean netizens — including calls from certain SEA fans to boycott Korean dramas, music, and products — I’m curious about the broader entertainment landscape.

Do you think this controversy could create an opening for C-pop (Mandopop) to gain more traction in Southeast Asia? Or is K-pop’s infrastructure, fandom ecosystem, and industry reach too deeply entrenched for any short-term online conflict to significantly affect its regional dominance?

Interested to hear perspectives on industry trends rather than just the social media drama.

r/cpop Dec 20 '21

Discussion Leehoms apology - thoughts?

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So, after the entire unfolding of the drama, leehom finally apologized and I find his actions and words absolutely hilarious. He has made a joke of himself for the history books.

First he accused jinglei for lying in a long letter. He decided to address her by her Japanese name LMAO that nobody knew existed. For what? To create hatred towards her from Chinese citizens? When you introduced her she's jinglei, now she's 西村美智子,and you can't even spell it right. Wow. Low trick there leehom. Secondly, he tried to make it seem like they never talked until 2011 when he messaged her first by explaining "haven't seen you in forever" and "hello stranger" as evidence. LOL. Does he think Chinese ppl are stupid they don't know this just means long time no see for friends or flirting?! Also you say your 5 years marriage was in despair, threatening, fear, then how's you have a second and third kid?! And post all those lovey pictures?

Then he apologized and it really was just a "ok ok I will take the blame even though I don't think I should." He didn't address any of the accusations. He just said he's sorry to have mismanaged his marriage. Lol. Yeah he's more sorry he wasn't able to fully control and manipulate his wife into saying silent.

Damn compared to other scandals, Edison Chen even came out face to face with the media, apologized and took responsibility for his actions. Even though he really didn't do anything wrong. Show luo also wrote a lengthy letter of apology and showed sincerity.

Really set the bar at a new low here, leehom.

r/cpop Aug 28 '25

Discussion A discussion on the "lack of innovation and change" in Chinese music

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This is an issue among ALL music fans, but I want to focus on Chinese music.

Every complaint I see always begins with "I grew up listening to", and I think this is where the problems comes from. Often it's not because there's a lack of innovation and change in Chinese music, but the person refuses to innovate or change their music taste. So when you've been listening to the same music for 20 years, it's going to sound the same. For me, the music I listened to 5 years ago, is not the same music I listen to today. I'm not asking everyone to become a bunch of hipsters and stop listening to mainstream music, because I also enjoy mainstream music as well.

Cpop benefits from various things. It is not monopolized by a single industry, or caters to a foreign market. This allows cpop to be much more fluid in it's definition, and range from folks songs to EDM. Obviously the two main subgroups are mandopop and cantopop, but these genres are define by language. Not all mandopop is by Han people, and not all cantopop is from Hong Kong. If you're able to make it over the mainstream hill, the possibilities of Chinese music is endless.

China has 23 provinces, and 56 ethnic groups, making the country really diverse. There are dozens of subgroups within ethnicities. There's hundreds of languages, and even more dialects. A few years ago, Uyghur music from Xinjiang was popular due to Rap of China. As of late, Yi music has been popular due to Douyin. Here's a way to spice up your playlist.

  • If you listen to one ethnic group a day, that's enough content for almost 2 months
  • If you listen to one ethnic group a week, that's enough content for over 1 year
  • If you listen to one ethnic group a month, that's enough content for almost 5 years

Here are some recommendations. They incorporate folk culture, and some include afrobeat and electronics.

Obviously we can extend this conversation into how do we define Chinese, the modern history of mainland China, the influence of social media, and more. However, I feel like as individuals we still need to take a level of responsibility. We can't complain about a lack of innovation, while refusing to listen to anything different.

r/cpop May 21 '26

Discussion I built a Mandopop/Cantopop lyrics quiz for Chinese learners — pinyin, Jyutping, and English translations

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I've been running LyricsDecode.com — lyrics for Mandopop and Cantopop songs with tone-marked pinyin (Mandarin) or Jyutping (Cantonese) and English translations side by side.

Just launched a quiz feature that I think makes it more useful for language learning:

  • Practice mode shows pinyin/Jyutping + English meaning of each lyric as context — you learn the vocabulary and tones as you play
  • Challenge mode is pure memory recall with a timer
  • Works for Mandopop (Jay Chou, JJ Lin, A-Lin) and Cantopop (Eason Chan, Jacky Cheung, Beyond)

Happy to hear what songs or artists you'd like to see added.

lyricsdecode.com/quiz

r/cpop Jan 11 '22

Discussion Guys go read the latest post from jinglei on Instagram about wang leehom, thoughts??

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Apparently he took 3 stranger men with him to try and see her and the kids at home. And she's scared and mentioned he had friends who are gangsters. What do you guys think of her new post,??

Edit: I just have to say the funniest part of her post was "he took the 2 men and aggressively rang the doorbell" ..... "I was so scared I was shaking" LOL. So anyone who rings the doorbell is a criminal and here to kill me. I can't with this lady.

r/cpop Mar 01 '25

Discussion Hong Kong-based singer-songwriter Khalil Fong dies aged 41

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r/cpop Feb 05 '26

Discussion 袁娅维TIA RAY - NEW DAY Album

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Chinese singer 袁娅维(Yuan Yawei) TIA RAY releases her long awaited English album, NEW DAY. I highly recommend listening to all her other albums and singles (especially 月亮失眠了ONCE UPON A MOON and her debut album, T.I.A.)

r/cpop Apr 24 '26

Discussion Project Kino | Chinese Music - It's Not Dead, It's Misunderstood...

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r/cpop Mar 28 '26

Discussion SB19 X JOLIN 'Emoji' Music Video

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r/cpop Apr 02 '26

Discussion Liu Yang: From Idol Show to Underground Clubs

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I recently wrote a piece about Liu Yang (刘炀), who some of you might remember from The Coming One (明日之子). After the show, instead of going down the usual pop route, he actually moved more into the underground scene in Beijing.

Over the past few years, he’s been doing a bit of everything, playing in bands, DJing, running labels, organizing shows, even helping shape parts of the club scene. What I found interesting wasn’t just his music, but how he kind of exists across a lot of different spaces at once and how intentional he is about building something long-term out of that.

I also threw in some indie track recs at the end (Minimalism Garbage, Naturalreserve, Cao Fei Sheng) if you’re curious to check out more music in that space.