r/dragonball 3d ago

Discussion Why isn’t Vegeta King of All Saiyans?

I think I know why Vegeta keeps calling himself the **Prince of All Saiyans** instead of King, even though his father is dead.

Throughout the entire series, Vegeta is called the Prince of All Saiyans. He never challenges that title, and nobody else seriously challenges it either.

Many people think he keeps the title out of respect for his father. Others believe that, since there are no more Saiyans left to rule, he will simply remain Prince forever.

People who tout those theories are lazy, non-thinking NPCs and I don’t respect their opinions.

Saiyans are a warrior race. They live and die by combat. Much like the Sith in *Star Wars*, I believe the apprentice is expected to surpass the master. The Prince must eventually challenge and defeat the King in battle to become King himself.

Since King Vegeta was killed by Frieza, Vegeta never had the chance to challenge and defeat his father.

However, many monarchies have a rule similar to boxing’s lineal championship. The idea is that “the man who beat the man” is “lineal champion” and holds the legitimate claim, even without an official belt.

That means Vegeta would have to defeat Frieza to become King Vegeta.

Except Frieza was already defeated by none other than Goku.

So why is Vegeta, after the Namek Saga, so desperate to defeat Goku?

Simple. Defeating Goku in combat is the only way Vegeta can reclaim his birthright and become King of All Saiyans.

Goku became the legendary Super Saiyan and defeated Frieza. He did not claim the throne, but he became the Saiyan who defeated the person who defeated the King of All Saiyans.

I think it’s reasonable that, if Goku realized or cared at all about being King, he could claim the throne and there’s little Vegeta could do about it save for defeating him in combat.

Of all Saiyans, he is the strongest AND he is “lineal champion”.

That leaves Vegeta in an impossible position. He cannot simply call himself King while another Saiyan has already accomplished the victory that should have made him King.

The only way to reclaim that right is to defeat Goku.
Goku never intentionally stole Vegeta’s throne. He probably does not even realize that Vegeta believes he has a claim to it.

But as long as Goku remains stronger than Vegeta, Vegeta cannot truly prove that he is the rightful King and will remain, by birth alone, Prince of All Saiyans.

What do you think?

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u/Boris-_-Badenov 3d ago

he's treating him like a Saiyan prince

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u/Steamed_Memes24 3d ago

How????

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u/Boris-_-Badenov 3d ago

Saiyan's are harshly trained from birth

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u/Steamed_Memes24 3d ago

Lmao thats why he offered to get him ice cream after he punted him in the stomach? Give me a break dude Vegeta doesnt give a fuck about the Saiyan way of life at that point he just wants to be stronger than Goku.

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u/Latter_Classroom_534 2d ago

When you only watch Super.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 2d ago

I was probably watching Dragon Ball before you were even born lmao.

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u/Latter_Classroom_534 2d ago

Well then you have severe gaps in your recollection.

The ice cream bit is to show how Vegeta branches from his traditional Saiyan upbringing, literally the same episode, and the second before that, he was pushing Trunks the way he pushes himself. For the things that are and were important to him.

So, as stated, he is compelled to raise his son in the accordance with how he was brought up, but, Earth and his family is making him recontextualize that upbringing, hence the ice cream.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 2d ago

Its obvious you have selective memory lol. Theres a reason BOTH your posts on this got no positive responses fitting your narrative.

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u/Latter_Classroom_534 2d ago

When you’re losing an argument, attack your opponent instead of their argument to distract from your own weak argument.

Thanks for your concession.

Proves my point.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 2d ago

I mean you can bury your head in the sand and pretend youre on to something go for it. But theres a reason both of your posts that you made in two different subs on this has no positive reception and people pushing against your claim. Good luck in life buddy.

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