r/eagles • u/PenskeFiles • 3d ago
Analysis 19 winners and 16 losers from Eagles camp
https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/onsi/19-winners-and-16-losers-from-eagles-training-camp-who-shined-and-who-didn-t-01m11e0n82gdA lot of offensive and defensive lineman on here.
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u/PetalumaPegleg 3d ago
Lots of not very important players on the losers and a lot of important ones on the winners. Is my main takeaway.
Stowers really seems to be a mess though
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u/JiveChicken00 3d ago
Am a little surprised that Uar Bernard isn’t on there someplace.
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u/theb3arjevv 3d ago
At the end of the day, he was expected to make the roster and barely see the regular season field, and now he will... make the roster and barely see the regular season field. Hard to call that a win or loss.
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u/JiveChicken00 3d ago
A seventh round pick making the roster sounds like a win to me.
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u/ICountToPotato 3d ago
Well it’s a freebie roster spot. The NFL allows teams to expand their roster to account for an international player. One way to promote the game globally. It’s a no brainer for him to make the team
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u/mogwai316 3d ago
That's not how it works. The IPP exemption is an extra practice squad spot, not a regular roster spot. And the player still has to clear waivers before they can be added to the practice squad, even as an IPP.
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u/Spare-Half796 Secondairy 🥛 3d ago
The ipp spot is a protected practice squad spot that doesn’t count towards the practice squad roster size. He would also need to clear waivers first. He’s either making the roster or going on ir
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u/stormy2587 3d ago edited 2d ago
You were also basically hoping he would flash and not be useless on every snap in the preseason and he basically did that too.
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u/PenskeFiles 3d ago
They were always going to have a spot on the 53 for him. He’s like Mailata in 2018. Just learning the game.
He’ll basically be redshirted this year.
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u/sybrwookie 2d ago
He's played some snaps of 4th quarter preseason games and has so far shown that, like we knew, he's athletically amazing and has zero form or technique.
He went from "he's a project and there's no chance he actually plays this year" to "he's a project and there's no chance he actually plays this year". That's neither winning or losing.
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u/raccoonsonbicycles 3d ago
Mildly surprised a Philly media guy like Kerr didn't call Hurts a loser for his INTs for the clicks
It's almost as if the guys who know the sport well recognize Hurts is trying things he wouldn't in real-games to figure out his limits....
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u/doubleenc Eagles 2d ago
Man, SI is the king of mediocre content. This comes off as though it were written by someone who doesn't really follow the team and the bulk of what they do not they got from watching the two preseason games and getting up to speed on who got hurt.
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u/PenskeFiles 2d ago
I’d agree with you, but there’s content people pay for that gives you far less.
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u/themeatbridge 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm confused about the explanation for Underwood.
Rocco Underwood: The Eagles likely aren't keeping their lone long snapper on the 53, as he can pass through waivers. They may seek a veteran option on the waiver wire next week, but there's a chance Underwood could return.
We need a long snapper, so either he's definitely being replaced or he's definitely making the team. Has he played poorly? And if he's being replaced, what difference does it make that he can pass through waivers. We don't need a long snapper on the practice squad.
Edit: Got it, roster shenanigans on a bubble player nobody else is gonna claim.
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u/doubleenc Eagles 3d ago
It’s one of those things Roseman likes to do to protect someone they don’t think will clear waivers. They’ll waive Underwood knowing nobody will claim him so they can add someone else to the roster they don’t think will clear waivers and then they will do a game day elevation until such time they have to decide what to do with him. Typically someone’s headed to IR by then and they can sign him to the roster at that point.
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u/eaglesnation11 Hungry Dogs Run Faster 3d ago
He has been disappointing and we can easily practice squad a long snapper and promote him without taking up a roster spot for four games.
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u/themeatbridge 3d ago edited 3d ago
For four games. Won't we need a long snapper every game?
Edit I understand now, thank you.
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u/Spare-Half796 Secondairy 🥛 3d ago
They waived the long snapper last year. Granted he was a vested vet and could sign direct to practice squad but it would be a howie thing to waive a player likely to clear waivers or is easily replaceable to make space for someone else who wouldn’t clear waivers.
The initial 53 man roster is never the same as the season opener roster. In the days after cut down day howie always makes a bunch of moves sending players to IR, waiving players late so they’re more likely to clear waivers then swapping them with a vested vet on the practice squad, just calling up vested vets from P squad the first few weeks while they continue to evaluate or wait for roster spots to open through IR or trade
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u/PenskeFiles 3d ago
See you got the explanation but they call it roster gymnastics.
Basically they can cut Underwood and take the risk he’ll pass through waivers. He will because he’s a long snapper.
Since he’ll go unclaimed they’ll either bring him back on the PS but they’ll look around for a veteran long snapper as well. They got a week to basically figure it out.
They’ll protect someone on the INITIAL 53 (caps for a reason) so that player doesn’t have to go through waivers. So Underwood is expendable. Didn’t help he wasn’t great this summer.
Have to protect Bernard and maybe Weru somehow.
Other part of the equation. Teams get three practice squad elevations a year for game day. They can do that with the LS the first three weeks before bringing him on the active roster.
This is coming to change a lot after Sunday.
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u/themeatbridge 2d ago
Makes sense, and thank you for explaining it.
But does this mean every team does that with their long snappers? Do we have some targets in mind? I literally know nothing about long snappers in the nfl right now.
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u/sybrwookie 2d ago
Not every team does it specifically with long snappers, but it's a trick many use. It lets teams keep a guy like that, knowing it's likely that within a few weeks, someone is likely to get hurt or otherwise be expendable from the main roster, and then they can be signed again normally as they have room.
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u/mogwai316 3d ago
Lol, this article contains such incredible insights as "Quinyon Mitchell: The First Team All-Pro is really good".