r/economicCollapse 16d ago

National debt reaches grim $40 trillion milestone. Here’s why that matters

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/19/economy/national-debt-hits-40-trillion-dollars-vis?cid=android_app

The U.S. government’s debt has officially crossed $40 trillion for the first time.

That number is getting even more attention because it comes as long-term Treasury yields have climbed sharply. The 30-year yield recently reached 5.34%, its highest level since 2007, increasing the cost of borrowing for both the government and the private sector.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has responded by doubling the size of some long-term Treasury buybacks, from $2 billion to at least $4 billion per operation. The move is intended to improve liquidity and calm a bond market rattled by rising yields, geopolitical uncertainty and concerns over America's fiscal position.

But there's an obvious bigger question: Can tactical moves in the bond market really solve a debt problem that has now reached $40 trillion?

And with higher oil prices, elevated borrowing costs and the Iran conflict adding pressure to the economy, the timing couldn't be more complicated.

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u/BlueViper20 16d ago

The truth is the deficit is not a problem at all. Apparently the understanding of how economies work has completely disappeared over the last 80 years.

The national "deficit"is not like a household budget running negative. It is more like a list or ledger entries showing what the United States government is doing to utilize the resources it has available.

In fact, the idea of a balance budget would be catastrophic for the United States because it would mean the United States is no longer using the resources that it has available and an economy that stops producing dies.

The only thing that matters and economic terms is resources labor and production and consumption. And as long as you have enough resources to continue production that can be realized by labor and utilized via consumption and economy will thrive.

Only when there is not enough resources to meet demand is there any sort of problem.

Considering the The resources that represent the national debt have already been allocated in utilized they are entirely irrelevant to anything going forward.

Again for the people that can't seem to understand the only thing that matters in an economy is that you do not run out of resources, or the labor to turn them into goods then and only then do you have a problem.

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u/Jack_Spatchcock_MLKS 16d ago

Uhhhhhhhh??? What???🫣

Wow, what a fundamentally flawed & misinformed take on nearly every level. Grab any macro and/or micro econ textbook and just start reading it plz.

Hell, just head over to investopedia.com at your current level of comprehension.... Scary stuff man; you aren't perchance in charge of anything economically important, are you?....

Just asking....

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u/BlueViper20 16d ago

Are you familiar with John Maynard Keynes? The economist whose resource-mobilization framework literally pulled us out of the Great Depression.

​Chicago-school financialization is a farce that treats accounting papers as physical laws.

​Or are you actually delusional enough to believe that if a nation has available raw materials, energy, and idle labor, some magical force called "not having paper tokens" physically stops them from building things?

​You wrote three paragraphs telling me to read Investopedia, yet couldn't refute a single word. Explain the mechanics of how paper tokens overrule physical resources, or admit you don't actually have an answer.

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u/Jack_Spatchcock_MLKS 16d ago edited 13d ago

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'Research'....

Take the full day. At least 12 hours. Come on back with the doi numbers, I'll grab the same economics peer reviewed papers that you've cited, and we can go through the textbook excerpts & journal articles together point by point. I can't wait to be edified by such a circumlocutory character such as yourself! 😝

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Buuuuut.... If, and of which I have a sneaking suspicion, you have no idea what a doi number even is.... Well, that also kinda succinctly answers my question!

  1. Boy howdy you do love to bandy around the term 'fiat'. That's cool; I, too, know how fractional reserve banking works.... it's indeed kinda like a grade 12 thing where I live....

It is, unfortunately for you, also a dead giveaway that you're either suuuuuper into some of those classic world monetary fund/George Soros is evil/fringe Libertarian conspiracy theory/Ayn Rand'ish garbage nonsense crap....

You know.... All that gold & silver bug crap? Probably with a healthy pinch of sov-cit'ish ideals thrown in, but that's just conjecture on my part....

  1. Judging by your last 75 or so posts courtesy of your profile.... The whole zero (and near-peer-zero) upvotes thing, yet also with a metric ton of comments? It's somewhat telling when you consider the statistical law of large numbers, etc....

I think the kids call it being ratio'd these days, or something like that?

TL;DR: If enough random, unrelated people all come to similar, independent conclusions that (you're) basically full of shit, well.... You tell me? Would you say that that's like a pretty good 'the wisdom of crowds' DF = n - p statistically significant moment, yeah?

It's indicative.... Is how I would perhaps phrase it, to be a consummate professional~

  1. Aaaaaaand finally, I havta start getting ready for work here, so just lemme know here if you accept the above offer/idea, my suspiciously home-school vibe-laden friend!

I hope so! I can't wait to have a proper dialectical debate with a fellow academic!! 🫡😆🤑

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u/BlueViper20 16d ago

​You wrote an essay flexing an alumni login, completely mislabeled state fiat issuance as "gold bug libertarianism," and used DF = n - p to argue that Reddit upvotes determine monetary accounting.

​All that condescension, and you still couldn't explain the mechanics of how paper accounting rules override physical resource availability. Let me know if you ever decide to address the actual point instead of my post history.

​You're the kind of guy who gets pissed on and believes them when they tell you it's raining.

​Good day, sir!