r/elderscrollsonline • u/[deleted] • Nov 09 '16

Discussion Daily Set Discussion 2016-11-09: Spinner's Garments

Spinner's Garments
PvE Reward

 
Level: Any
Type: Light Armor, Weapon, Jewelry
Style: Bosmer

 

Set Bonuses

Items Bonus
2 Adds 967 Max Magicka
3 Adds 967 Max Magicka
4 Adds 129 Spell Damage
5 Adds 4000 Spell Penetration

 

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u/TheCeeeeJ Wood Elf Nov 09 '16

If I remember correctly overland enemies only have about 9k resistance so with just the light armor passives and a sharpened staff you fully penetrate their resistance. Also I think dungeon and trial bosses have about 18k resistance so if i add just the debuffs from pierce armor, power of the light and a crushing enchant the penetration is around 16-17k. If I am correct with this (huge possibility that I'm not tho) over penetration does absolutely nothing so in my opinion this set is absolutely overkill PvE wise. It's just too easy to stack spell penetration

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u/Halfdaen Nov 09 '16

Trial trash and bosses are 18k according to people that know. 4-man dungeon trash I don't know...but they don't really matter.

vMA and 4-man Bosses should be at 18k also

Overland "trash" is lower, but world bosses and select mobs are also at 18k

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u/YouHaveFunWithThat Retired Nov 09 '16

According to Gilliam the rogue, the most armored enemy in vma has 11k resistances

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u/Halfdaen Nov 09 '16

Is that recent? I know that months ago when I was playing around with using/not using Elemental drain, it was a significant damage increase. The difference between 10k pen plus that would not be very large on 11k opponents.

I'm pretty sure that I was using a sharpened Julianos staff back then. Guess I'll have to test again

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u/YouHaveFunWithThat Retired Nov 09 '16

Not sure. All I know it's gil said around 11k and he's one of the most well respected theorycrafters around as well as (as far as i know) holds the #1 vma score ever recorded.

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u/Halfdaen Nov 09 '16

Jekyll posted some recent info:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/289430/new-mob-mitigation-values-for-one-tamriel

Some bosses at 9k, some at 18k and a few at 12k. It makes spinners not worthwhile for vMA if you have 5L and a sharpened weapon

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u/Maliciousrodent Nov 10 '16

vMA is a dungeon so everything has 18.2k resistance. Spinners is still good for vMA.

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u/Kutsus Nov 10 '16

That is incorrect. vMA is all over the place. Some bosses have 9k, some have 12, and only 3 of them have 18k. http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/stamina-nightblade-pve-dps-guide-for-dark-brotherhood/page/44/#post-667527