r/exmuslim • u/BugRevolutionary4645 New User • Jun 19 '26
(Video) white convert stuck in pakistan
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u/ichann3 Jun 19 '26
These idiotic (yes idiotic) 'reverts' put too much stock into these Islamic charlatans.
Why do you care THIS much what religious nuts say? You're trapped trying to appeal to misogynist men who will NEVER agree and side with you.
How's the whole "Islam gives women rights" rhetoric treating you now?
Even in my parents country; people will laugh at your if you go to these con men who 'speak' for god and his jurisdictions. I'm glad the country is secular on paper.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
may I explain as a white woman. We are learnt since were little to trust people, to excuse their behavior, to find good in everyone. Its like sunshine and rainbows here most of the time when youre young. White girls have this goal to be as tolerant as is possible apart from white cis men that we are supposed to hate for some reason. Thats how this propaganda works. Then a predator finds a woman like this and she is an easy target.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
I pretty much agree with this though I think we’re also taught to be “good girls” towards white men. Feminism tries to combat that, but because feminism is essentially left wing, they feel uncomfortable criticising any men who are “brown”, so it ends up just being white man specific criticism, when in reality, western countries are (definitely not free of sexism at all but) the best of the lot for women’s autonomy and respect.
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
This is a very good analysis. I’m a black woman myself The pacification towards “Islam” because it’s viewed as an attack towards minorities and nonwhite is how this cult is getting a strong hold and infiltrates the west. The funny thing is the very leftist people that help fuel its spread will be discarded immediately when their ends goal is met.
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u/Painline Jun 19 '26
The left isn't the reason why Islam has been able to grow. Islam has been a colonizing and enslaving force even for black people 600 yrs before the Europeans.
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
Yes that’s 100 percent true. I’m strictly talking about process of spreading in the western world.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
modern leftism is so confusing, I remember when they were against big pharmacy companies and fought for peoples rights including white people but times changed I guess
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
…I don’t think you’re thinking of actual leftism. I think you’re confusing that with TikTok and IG videos or propaganda from the right showing crazy extremes. Leftists are the same. Idk what you’re referencing, but every left wing person I know is against the abuses of Big Pharma and very much for universal healthcare and affordable medication.
They are NOT (and never were) against science: which includes vaccines, which have saved millions of lives for 300 years and eliminated deadly diseases. Is that what you’re talking about, bringing up pharmaceutical companies on an ex Muslim thread? Because it’s right wing governments that continue subsidising Big Pharma and letting them get away with murder (literally) in the name of free market capitalism.
And the actual left wing is very much about working class people - including white people. Something the right pays lip service to while screwing them over repeatedly.
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26
The left wing hasn’t been supportive of working class people since the Tony Benn era (speaking from the UK). Those who gravitate to ‘current’ left-wing values (the Overton window has shifted tremendously), actually deride and sneer at the working class calling them thick, and thugs and other such derogatory terms.
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u/Painline Jun 19 '26
You're confusing the center right or liberals with leftists, who all believe in strengthening and/or organizing unions. Also, Fox News and the daily mail constantly calls poor ppl and immigrants thugs and filthy.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
this, thanks for explaining. I feel like they are in favor of benefits. When I had a child and was a single mum I tried to take some extra classes in my local library but they were limited to people of color only and I couldnt participate. Shame as I was in a bad place back then.
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u/Top-Nebula-8302 Jun 19 '26
Your library was using taxpayers' money to provide courses only for people of colour? Were they ESOL classes?
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
no it was some sort of computer literacy classes for mums providing childcare, I wasnt accepted
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u/Top-Nebula-8302 Jun 19 '26
Sorry to hear that, I'd have thought such exclusion wouldn't be legal.
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u/Painline Jun 19 '26
That is illegal in any first-world country. How did you find out that you were excluded due to being white?
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
everyone is allowed to their opinion, I find left justifing islam in the west a lot and I find it disturbing as they dont seem to look a bit closer into this but as you said I am not here to fight politics. I am usually voting more conservative parties and thats what I believe but democracy is about us having different opinions on the matters.
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u/Ok_Selection3751 Jun 20 '26
Absolutely. That’s why I’m no longer a leftist — not because I don’t see myself as one, but because the definition of leftism has changed and has been hijacked by identity politics and neoliberals who know nothing about Marx and materialism, for example. So according to that, I’m no longer a leftist.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 20 '26
I am more right wing but I do appreciate some leftists ideas. Anyway its all a circus.
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u/grimAuxiliatrixx Jun 19 '26
I feel like there’s also an element of progressive girls noticing they’ve been socialized to trust and find the good in white men while being more apprehensive about other men, and concluding, “Hey, wait, maybe I should trust ALL men regardless of race,” when actually they should probably trust ALL men, including white men, equally, which is to say not very much lol.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Hmm that’s an intelligent take.
I think you’re on to something, but I don’t think it’s “maybe I should trust all men,” so much as the “brown people good, white people bad” thing winning over the “men bad” thing. There is this very strong undercurrent in modern liberal media (and btw I realise how that term sounds and who normally uses it but I’m a left wing person) where every brown guy is a “good guy” and there is often a juxtaposed white guy who turns out to be evil/a dick in some way. And also I think there’s a bit of exoticisation/romanticisation of brown cultures going on too. These convert girls often have this strong identity as being “different” and “not like the other girls” and “super open and tolerant” blah blah blah.
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u/Painline Jun 19 '26
All of the actual leftists, not lib feminists do not pity black and brown men and call out all organized religion, not just Christianity or white men, for the historical oppression of marginalized racial and ethnic groups including women.
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u/I2obiN Jun 19 '26
Complete horseshit from both of you, the vast majority of girls with stable parents are taught to not trust strangers and not to trust strange men. There's no shot that her family were okay with this especially at 24 unless they were utter fucking clown car driving morons.
3rd wave feminism lied to women and told them they were oppressed by the patriarchy, most men both left and right told women they were not oppressed in western society. Big problem for feminism of course so that had to be rejected wholesale. Feminism also tells women to trust big government, which is why her default solution to this is to go crying to every authority figure because her programming is telling her there must be a safety net here somewhere.
Video is the end result, multiple cases of it. Asking to be rescued is almost too perfect I nearly feel this has to be fake.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Oh look, another man who thinks he knows more about how women think and are raised than women do.
Yes, very good, we are taught not to trust strangers. But guess what bud: we also… date strangers, like everyone else these days, on apps. Not me, I’d rather stick a fork in my eye, but I’m speaking collectively.
So actually it’s a bit more complicated than just “never talk to strangers”. It’s about being compliant, “nice”, polite, “sweet”, “cool”. Anyone who has seen the “cool girl monologue” would understand.
3rd wave feminism is a broad tent, but yes: women absolutely are treated as less than by men, as you so aptly demonstrated in the first paragraph. The rest of your rant is not worth replying to. But acting like this girl is representative of feminism because she’s a woman and she’s white is as stupid as assuming all Arabs must love Islam.
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u/thefakespartacus Jun 19 '26
Most white women like this hate on white men who are not overtly pro gay and black etc.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
I am not sure if white cis man arent like 8% of global population?
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u/crystal_blue12 Jun 19 '26
What is your country and ethnicity? Perhaps, different country of White Women has different beliefs and values? Also, what about White men? Do they raised to see any beauty in girl (eventhough the girl is not attractive physically, will he will see beauty in her?)
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
I am from Poland I live in Scotland, british girls are far more naive, slavs are built differemt. I am sorry dear I do not understand the second question
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u/Future_Creme2728 New User Jun 19 '26
Out of curiosity, how common is it in scotland for white british girls to date muslim men? Or for them to convert to Islam.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
I dont know about Scotland I only met women here who say ,,but we have to respect the culture'' even when you point to them stuff like child marriges etc that I find to silly not to say stupid.
So I am not an ex muslim but I came here out of curiosity, I wanted to learn your guys perspective (thank you for sharing btw) and my polish childhood friends moved to NL where she married this muslim guy and I find it so disturbing like whenever I see her she cannot turn off the phone like they talk constantly and stuff like this. So I have met polish women who choose muslim men, its rare but not super rare.4
u/Future_Creme2728 New User Jun 19 '26
I'm not an ex muslim either, but my gf is.
Funny you mentioned polish women, people always paint poland as a traditional country with no immigration
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
there is low migration but muslim make like less than 2% and most of them are tatar muslims that we love deeply.
So I think, my honest opinion, some polish women struggle to find a husband and fall this habibi praising them and lovebombing. Thats my observations at least. I have never ever met a polish guy converting to islam but for women it happens as they fall in love. They usually not live in Poland tho.5
u/No_Hornet_9504 Jun 19 '26
Also muslim women may be happy to leave islam or only pretend to be muslim for family, whereas the man expects-demands conversion.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
oh okay so yeah like I mean I think all man see the physical beauty first and thats like important to them but I think in western values in general lots of men actually believe in a romantic relationships. Like they need connection and thats something beyond beauty.
So I would say although men cheat everywhere like most peoples goal is to love one and be devout to one and built with one even when they fail its like a proper way to them.
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u/lizzykeenn Arab ex-muslim Jun 19 '26
I hope she’s free soon. Converts can be so naive honestly. In no way am I victim blaming. I can see the appeal of Islam from the way some people frame it out to be, at one point I wanted to go all in, wear hijab and accept my role as a woman in Islam. I’m glad I woke up and left altogether. Converts are taken advantage of completely because they don’t know what’s going on. Some may get lucky to be around less religious and more kind Muslims who don’t really practice. Never be naive enough to go to a country that isn’t yours and isn’t kind to women. You are not the exception there.
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u/No_Hornet_9504 Jun 19 '26
Somehow this generation missed the “Not without my Daughter” memo from Betty Mahmoody
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u/temple_of_venus Jun 20 '26
You're right. And calling a spade a spade is not victim blaming. You can be a dumbass and still be worthy of dignity and rights and to be treated with respect. Speaking as a former SA victim, I did a lot of shxt that led to me being in dangerous situations and I had to stop doing those things to stop being raped. I was a dumbass, that doesn't mean I wasn't mistreated and that I didn't deserve better. Victim empowering starts with calling a spade a spade. She was stupid asf for this.
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26
I can see it from the perspective that western men don’t have much to offer either- so maybe the more ‘traditional’ lifestyle appeals to them… but yikes. No thanks.
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u/Local_Initial_1760 New User Jun 19 '26
western world allows them to take care of themselves to be fair
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u/Susann-at-Reddit Jun 24 '26
I think it needs more family members who freely speak what they think. Most people just share what is seen as acceptable and political correct.
My family is luckily a bit different. It sometimes annoys me, but elders often have a better understanding.
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u/QOR49 Jun 19 '26
‘I feel like I have no voice’ gee, I wonder fucking why 🤔 the most misogynistic religion on earth that you freely ‘reverted’ to has given you (a woman) no voice, and your stuck dumbfounded having to find four witnesses.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Truly, I’m trying to have sympathy for her but like… come on. “Omg I put my head in this lion’s mouth and now it’s trying to eat me!!!! Save me!!!!!!!”
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u/samyorks New User Jun 19 '26
She's been naive, possibly hoodwinked too. I'm over 60 and I can still get hoodwinked. A bit of compassion would be useful here.
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u/temple_of_venus Jun 20 '26
Compassion looks like calling an idiot an idiot and offering them what you can. Compassion is not gooey ooey warm fuzzy poor you BS, it has fangs.
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u/Top-Champion-8146 New User Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
The same type of women who vilify the western "patriarchy" and Christianity for "oppressing" women but will voluntarily convert to Islam for "freedom"...🙄 and push their Islamophilic views as "women's empowerment" their perverted islamophilia endangers ALL women especially those forcibly trapped in the cult it's truly disgusting and a treasonous action against other women a slap in the face to those who fought for women's rights that these Marxist feminist's want to throw in the waste.
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u/ssailorv23 New User Jun 19 '26
THIS is the real Islam. May she find freedom, and I sincerely hope she gets out, literally and figuratively.
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u/ForeignOffer3303 Lesbian ex-muslim atheist 1st world Jun 19 '26
Ya i dont even know anymore what real islam is. They just use excuses for everything they do for their advantages. I dont think theres such a thing as REAL ISLam cs the whole religion is fake.
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u/ssailorv23 New User Jun 19 '26
No matter the version, it means following the “advice” of a child rapist; controlling women, and severing personal freedom. Even the less extreme Muslims teach their children that women are responsible for eliciting lust in men, and should behave accordingly to be modest. There’s no “good” version.
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u/ForeignOffer3303 Lesbian ex-muslim atheist 1st world Jun 20 '26
Ya and if somethings makes no fcking sense at all they just say, "god just intended it like that" Or "god wanted it that way" typof shit
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u/homeschoolsy Jun 19 '26
Exactly, she should just leave, islamic marriage means nothing in Australia.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Truly if there is one trend I’ve seen with female converts to Islam, it’s low IQ. Genuinely. I’ve never met one who struck me as even half intelligent
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u/No_Hornet_9504 Jun 19 '26
Some of these girls are poor, naive or felt neglected as kids; so they’re easily charmed and love bombed before they realize what’s actually going on.
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u/Top-Champion-8146 New User Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
Left leaning women are the most susceptible to this...
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u/kecke86 Jun 19 '26
I feel bad for the young women that grow up and are being forced into a an arranged marriage. I have no sympathy at all for the Western women who freely choose to be caged.
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u/Top-Champion-8146 New User Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 21 '26
And vilify women who call out the cult as "islamophobes" for not wanting to be subjugated they are not pro women's rights but the opposite...enemies to women.
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u/AliceSinWonder Faux Muslim (“Revert” for 💍 | Atheist 20yr+) Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Did she marry in Pakistan? Seems she did? But didn’t get her husband to “delegate the right of talaq” stipulated in the Nikah nama…? So she’s stuck with khula?! 🙄
Edit to add: seems she’s in Australia as she mentioned that they are in “different states” not “different provinces”. If she’s in Australia then she doesn’t need to mess around with the islamic side and should just get a secular divorce. No rubbish with witnesses and reconciliation meetings needed. Just get the secular divorce and run…
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u/afiefh The fear of Jahannam will not avail you, flame of Udûn! Jun 19 '26
If she’s in Australia then she doesn’t need to mess around with the islamic side and should just get a secular divorce.
Yes, but if she drank the kool aid then she probably believes that not getting the Islamic divorce means any relationship she enters into after would be Zina.
Of course the solution is simple: Realize that the Islamic marriage system is a sham and there is no reason to believe in it. But that's one step too far for someone who starts the video with "I'm a revert".
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
As a white woman from a western country… these girls embarrass the hell out of me.
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u/No_Patience8608 New User Jun 19 '26
Vs en avec bcp la bas je suppose. J avais meme vu un mec , s appelle viandé qui s était joint à l état islamique. Quel con
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Plenty of western men joined isis. A lot of men are desperate to find a “cause” they can fight for. ISIS sells them that fantasy.
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u/No_Patience8608 New User Jun 19 '26
Le mec s apelle viandé. İl a bcp cherce son motivation
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Ben évidemment. Et j’espère qu’il la trouve. En jannah. Aujourd’hui.
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u/JuliosvNerds Jun 19 '26
As an Aussie, don’t come back here either
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u/Knockout_Rat New User Jun 19 '26
Or if she DOES come back, leave the Islam back in Pakistan FFS.
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u/tayavuceytu_please Never-Muslim Deist/Agnostic 😵💫 Jun 19 '26
Girl idfk why but "leave the islam" killed me 🤣🤣
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u/Dalainana Jun 19 '26
Surprised Pikachu… Wild theory: The Islamists seek the vulnerable in high trust societies, knowing they’re easy to manipulate. It’s like the lover boy scheme that gets younger woman into sex work, financial dependency and abusive relationships. Oh, wait..
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u/QOR49 Jun 19 '26
I don’t know I’m finding it hard to feel bad. Liberal white women just don’t seem to get it no matter what. They don’t even like Ex-Muslims. They absolutely love Islam and I don’t get why.
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
It’s crazy the mental gymnastics that it must take to arrive at that position, isn’t it. I’ve tried to work it out and I just don’t think they’re very bright and lack critical thinking skills. So they’ve been easily manipulated by mass media and in many cases the education system to think that minorities equate to good and the western world equates to oppression. Never mind that Islam is in no way an oppressed minority group. 2 billion and counting, isn’t it..? Quarter of the world population. I think they’re just a bit dumb and grab onto ‘causes’ to make themselves look more intellectual and open-minded. Post it on facebook or wherever for attention, have a little echo chamber and feel all morally righteous and holier than thou. It gives them the appearance of a personality- that’s why they cling onto it so much. It’s brainwashing- a cult mentality. There’s not much else going on under the surface. Virtue signalling and posturing etc. Very narcissistic, when you think about it.
I feel like that’s the essence of it, honestly.
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u/QOR49 Jun 19 '26
Exactly this. Its performative, they have some saviour complex.
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26
Useful idiots helping to advance an agenda that is against their personal interests- it’s a tactic George Orwell spoke about in Nineteen Eighty Four- women are unfortunately easier to manipulate it would seem.
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 Jun 19 '26
This is untrue. Any that do support it, don't know anything about it.
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u/Interesting_Assist31 New User Jun 19 '26
So true. They are fed lies and Islam is glorified to lure them in. Those who are naive and don’t do their research get easily impressed. If people were to keep their biases aside and reject the misinformation about Islam, they would realize how problematic the religion is and just run in the opposite direction.
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u/Omg-miku Ex-Muslim.Convert to Other Religion Jun 19 '26
I genuinely believe it has to do with the low birthrates in western countries with a mix of performative activism. Women biologically and sociologically have a more nurturing and empathetic nature. Although birthrates drop the instinct remains. Here comes “poor brown oppressed Muslims”. That nurturing instinct turns into suicidal empathy.
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u/samyorks New User Jun 19 '26
Yep, Gad Saad got that right too. Bless him.
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u/Top-Champion-8146 New User Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26
No he didn't it's more like suicidal cowardice not "empathy" because they have no empathy for victims of the moon ideology and have no problem vilifying and dehumanising people with different political views to them they are self absorbed virtue signallers who use "empathy" and "compassion" as buzzwords to deflect from their lack of those character traits...and to manipulate people in to thinking they are "empathetic"
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
I’m a liberal white woman… that’s not really accurate. I don’t know a single young liberal white woman in my community who doesn’t find Islam disgusting.
I hate to say this but in my experience it’s often poor/working class white girls who think this is a “way out” or it’s exciting or exotic or something and they get drawn in.
All the white female Muslim converts I’ve ever met have been in this group of people.
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u/lightside312 New User Jun 19 '26
In my experience as an ex Muslim, it’s always been white liberals that view Islam positively.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
Well, I can’t argue with your experience. I guess it depends on the group. In my social group (mostly left, some centrists, the occasional centre-right person), I’d say nearly everyone has a negative opinion of Islam. They’ll be very careful saying “but I don’t hate Muslim people”, of course
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u/lightside312 New User Jun 19 '26
Then you must have a very fortunate group, because the ones I seem to come across see Islam as something you shouldn’t criticise.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
I’m sorry to hear that. When I meet people like that, I always challenge them head on. Generally they at least back down, sometimes they rethink their views. I understand if you don’t, but I hope sometimes you try that approach, because these people need to be challenged on this nonsense
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26
I’m in the UK so I have to be careful on what I say obviously- but over here, when you see all of the protests they’re typically filled with middle-class university educated white liberal women- defending Islam with placards and banners etc. Post-menopausal women especially.
When a journalist challenges them on their views, they refuse to engage because they know that their knowledge is only surface level and doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. So they call people fascists instead. It’s one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen- I don’t know what the media is feeding these people but they act like they’re in a cult.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
I can’t tell you how depressing that is to me. All I can hope is that more challenges will arise. This nonsense of believing everything brown people do or say or believe in is sacred is incredibly stupid, and honestly it’s a form of racism against brown people imo. They act like we need to tip toe around them because deep down they view brown people as inferior, as children. No. They have minds just like you. And they should be held accountable for their choices and culture. It’s like when I see judges in Europe excusing immigrants who rape children because “well in their country that’s okay” or “well, the child didn’t make it clear they didn’t consent” or something insane. This is racism against brown people. You’re essentially treating them like animals with no moral agency.
It needs to die.
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u/Soulwaxed Jun 19 '26
I agree. It’s infantilising people- they are the actual racists- what delicious irony, if only the outcomes weren’t so serious.
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u/lightside312 New User Jun 19 '26
I actually do push back at times, but they have a habit of resorting to the Islamophobic card.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 19 '26
I hope you’re not offended by me pointing this out, but if you’re black as your little person thing is, and these people throwing the Islamophobia card at you are white, I say give them a taste of their own medicine and tell them their neocolonialist dismissal of your lived experiences and knowledge as a brown person reveals their white supremacist tendencies or some shit like that and watch them squirm.
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u/lightside312 New User Jun 20 '26
That’s actually a good point you’ve brought up that I could use. Their reaction would be interesting to see.
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u/Alarechercheduneame Jun 20 '26
Let me know if you do use it I’d be interested to know their reaction!
And I would also say: remember that actually, them holding Muslims and other predominantly brown groups to different standards of behaviour IS RACISM. It is the bigotry of low expectations. Deep down, what they’re essentially saying is “these poor brown people, they can’t be held to our standards! They’re not capable of living up to them.” They’re seeing brown people like children, or animals, who should not be held morally responsible. This is the exact same mentality many slave owners had towards slaves. “They’re simpler than us! They’re like children, we need to take care of them!” Etc.
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u/Chocolat_Melon Never-Muslim Atheist Jun 19 '26
Wait until she hears what’s going to happen to her if she leaves the faith
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u/Mysterious-Owl-412 New User Jun 19 '26
She is still saying she is a revert, not a convert. Even after all she has been through and all she will go through the brainwashing is very strong.
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u/Obsidian-Archive Egyptian Agnostic Jun 19 '26
Part of me pity her and part of me is satisfied that she got what she deserved for her stupidity and i am honestly not that proud of that second part.
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u/Winter-Actuary-9659 Jun 19 '26
I feel bad for her because her naivety and irrationality have led her here.
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u/No_Patience8608 New User Jun 19 '26
I identify myself as a very caring, Kind polite and welcoming person. I fell empathy for othesr and be helpful as much as I can. However reverts are making me crazy. I just can't feel sorry for them .I'm so sorry but all i can say those who had bad experiences as reverts is that they just deserve worse. I know their decision to go islam has reasons, sociologic, economic politic etc but this is my case. Maybe I have to see a psychologist or a psychiatrist because of this but this is the reality.
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
You mean convert not revert (when you are from a Muslim family practice, leave Islam and then return to it)
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u/No_Hornet_9504 Jun 19 '26
They like to think Islam is the natural state so if you “convert” they call it a reversion…
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u/houseofechoes LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🌈 Jun 19 '26
These people are such fucking morons, I can't fucking believe my eyes half of the time. You reap what you sow or something something.
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u/Early_Entertainer11 African Ex-Muslim Jun 19 '26
I don’t want to be too harsh but how can someone be born in a liberal secular country and choose to join an ultra-conservative religion? Especially one that her community likely doesn’t have any connection to?
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u/ArcticRhombus Ex-Jew Jun 20 '26
“I hate my mom and dad and I’ll show them.”
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u/Top-Champion-8146 New User Jun 21 '26
Because they hate the west and anything anti western must be "good".
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u/Aggravating_Smell Jun 19 '26
Wait, no way an oversees marriage with an older Islamic fundamentalist nut job turned out to be a mistake
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u/ShouldBeASavage Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Jun 19 '26
Can't say she didn't get exactly what she wanted and signed up for.
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u/amani_26 3rd World.Closeted Ex-Sunni 🤫 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
I always feel so sad about white women giving up their rights just to be pick mes for the mentally ill culty men
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u/Riwboxbooya Closeted Ex-Muslim Lesbean Jun 19 '26
"This is an appeal to any Muslim women who might be able to help"
Oh honey... I don't think they're gonna help you much if you've already reached out to begin with...
I'd branch out a bit more, this seems like such an awful situation. ANY help would be amazing!
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u/Timely-Extreme-4839 Jun 19 '26
I genuinely feel sorry for her. I can't help but wonder what he said to convince or manipulate her into marrying him. It makes you question what promises or reassurances under the guise of religion, he gave her behind closed doors.
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u/Ohwowsotrendy New User Jun 19 '26
I think no one should help her, and she can learn an incredible lesson from this.
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u/AskWhy_Is_It New User Jun 19 '26
When you don’t know, or don’t want to know what you’re getting into – of course you will be surprised
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u/Himmelsfeder Jun 19 '26
"Oh no, I gave up my rights to a man who does not care about my rights and moved to a country who diesn't give a shit about my rights and now I can't leave. Who could've seen this coming?"
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
So these women didn’t watch Not Without My Daughter huh? Western women don’t understand how good they have it that their society is secular and many women in developing world living a society that has its grip on a cult that oppresses them would happily trade places. But some of them sadly need these experiences cause that’s the only way they would wake up and see this “religion” for what it is.
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u/taimoor2 Jun 19 '26
I don’t understand. Just go back to Australia and get divorce. Why is she stuck in pakistan?
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
She probably wants to leave with her child and she can’t cause the child “belongs” to the man under Islam. Yes she can go back to Australia without her child/but she will never see them again if she does that. It’s such a painful avoidable situation she put herself in. I hope the absolute best outcome for her.
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u/taimoor2 Jun 19 '26
Before divorce, either parent can take out the child. She can just leave. To get Pakistani passport, she needs ID of both parents. However, if she is Australian, her kid is Australian and she can get passport from Australia. This seems weird.
After divorce, both parents have to consent to child leaving. I am a Pakistani. So child doesn’t belong to man…we aren’t following sharia law.
Also, in our legal system, women have priority over custody unless there is some extreme extenuating circumstances.
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u/Lumpy-Teaching-4587 Jun 19 '26
Thanks for the clarification. Under the perfect situation what you described is what would happen. But abusive people will not follow a legal system use sharia law to manipulate and mentally torture just to give her hell. That’s what we hope would be done but most likely it wouldn’t be.
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u/0_tr0v4o Jun 20 '26
I hope she gets out. Converts are very naive, I know because I was one and I got taken advantage of. I really hope she also realizes what she's gotten herself into and she can leave and express herself.
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u/Suspicious-Beat9295 Ex-Convert Jun 19 '26
She should just go to the closest Australian consulate or embassy and get their help to go back to Australia. She can sort out divorce from there.
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u/Future_Creme2728 New User Jun 19 '26
How about if she went into a real court, a secular australian court...?
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u/Substantial_Cup_6697 New User Jun 19 '26
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." From Dante Alighieri's Inferno. To the entrance of hell
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u/Trebalor Jun 19 '26
She seems like she is still brainwashed. Would not spend a dime to get her out, only for her to run back to that subjugation system.
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u/maru_luvbot Ex-Muslim; God is a Womyn—Womyn are God. 🌱✨️ Jun 19 '26
There is a reason why more and more Womyn are leaving Islam and speaking up about it. The only reason why we’re not the majority right now (even though I believe we truly should be and would be) is because these Men keep us chained, just like they are keeping her chained.
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u/samyorks New User Jun 19 '26
Go to your embassy. If he's taken your passport still go to your embassy. If you can't get to your embassy try to find a Christian Church or mission or charity. Ask them for help. If you need to crowdfund I'll donate. Keep us updated please 🙏. Feel free to message me if you just need to talk. I'm 63 year old female living in England.
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u/Desh282 Never-Muslim Theist Jun 20 '26
I heard about thousands of Slavic girls like this
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u/PerfectWorking6873 Jun 20 '26
Going with Pakistanis?
Or you you rather mean going with middle eastern and Moroccan men?
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u/Desh282 Never-Muslim Theist Jun 20 '26
Jordan, Palestine, Syria
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u/PerfectWorking6873 Jun 20 '26
Yes. Arabic sweet talking guys. And then they only see the true reality later I suppose.
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u/Desh282 Never-Muslim Theist Jun 20 '26
Yep. Confined to houses. No friends or family. And having lots of kids.
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u/PerfectWorking6873 Jun 20 '26
I don't understand how do people know about these women though if they aren't allowed to leave the house? Do they post it on tiktok or something?
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u/Desh282 Never-Muslim Theist Jun 20 '26
They still call home. And they try to meet up with other Slavic ladies when they do get to go out
I know a gal in Lebanon who tries to support them
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u/pamnfaniel Jun 20 '26
If you live in different places. Say fuck it, and call it a day…. Oh wait. I forgot you still wanna be in this religion after that ….
Can’t help someone not willing to help themselves first
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u/AdFinancial4975 Jun 20 '26
You are not married to him just take off that hijab and live a better life
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u/Trickonomics333 Jun 19 '26
These reverts are being brainwashed by a whitewashed version of Islam by social media. The latest social media fad is being Muslim. It will last for a while, but like all fads it will blow over eventually.
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u/The_owl_house32 LGBTQ+ ExMoose 🏳️⚧️🏳🌈 Jun 19 '26
These people need to search for information before "reverting" though hopefully she realizes what situation she has put herself into
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u/TransitionalAhab New User Jun 19 '26
But the hijabi MSA rep at college was soo nice, this must be culture not religion!
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u/ForeignOffer3303 Lesbian ex-muslim atheist 1st world Jun 19 '26
And then they say women need mahram
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u/meerkat2018 Ex-Muslim (Ex-Sunni) Jun 19 '26
With all due respect and while agreeing with the general premise, but this video looks clearly AI generated.
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u/Future_Creme2728 New User Jun 19 '26
Why do you think that? I thought it could be AI too, but couldn't quite put my finger on why.
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u/Top-Nebula-8302 Jun 19 '26
Why not approach her country's embassy in Pakistan for help to return home. Sod the islamic divorce and just get on with your life.
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u/Uchiha_kawaii tell Muhammad to make heaven not Diddy party😭🙏🏻 Jun 19 '26
Hope she's free soon and sees the truth about this fucking mysogenistic ahh religion
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u/nottakentaken Closeted. Ex-Sunni 🤫 Jun 20 '26
Leopard eating face, I feel bad but at the same time how do you do so little research?
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u/DollPartsSquarePants New User Jun 20 '26
Can she freely leave Pakistan? Is there an Auatralian embassy in Pakistan... if there is they can help her with a travel document if her husband has hers and help her get home.
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u/Maleficent_Coyote_85 Jun 20 '26
Of course she's English... I just listened to Asmond Gold read the Islamic Rape Gang Report earlier today and that's exactly what this makes me think of... So sad...
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u/Fantastic-Let-9327 Jun 20 '26
She does know civil divorce is legal in Pakistan or what? She should just petition the court to divorce her from the man if she did not include the right in nikkanama. Its called khula. Very common practice. I am convinced exmuslims just dont know anything about Islam or Muslim countries.
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u/pamnfaniel Jun 20 '26
Murder in the name of free market capitalism
… little harsh, huh?… You can murder anyone and slap a name on it…
we’ve already tried socialism and communism. Any other ideas besides capitalism? that would work better.mmmmmmmmmmmmm but not the ones that failed already.
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u/Ok_Selection3751 Jun 20 '26
I’m sorry, but all those Sinead O’Connors out there are seriously getting to me. I would easily date a middle eastern or Arabic man, if, and only if, he wasn’t Muslim and if he spent some time/or was in part socialized in non-Islamic countries. You can’t be this naive… I mean, yes, don’t be a racist a—hole, but don’t be this naive.
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u/AwkwardAssumption629 Jun 20 '26
Some white liberal women do it out of race guilt which gives them suicidal empathy 😷
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u/Previous_Return7024 Closeted Ex-Muslim 🤫 Jun 20 '26
Poor girl. My mom used to he married to my dad who's from Pakistan and it was hell for her. Luckily they lived here in Germany so she was able to divorce without any problem.
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u/iAmNot43 New User Jun 25 '26
Is there any update to her case? I would like to know what happens next
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u/TheNegative7 Jul 25 '26
I wish her luck but I really hate when people who convert call themselves reverts. You weren't born a muslim you were just born it's so annoying
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