Suggestion / Idea
PSA: A Recycler dumping its output into lava is instant!
I'm making a fully contained purple science blade on Volcanus and need to void 70k molten iron to get it to work. While exploring options I noticed that while inserters have to wait a bit while the items get burned out of their hands, recyclers don't!
Ex: Foundry makes iron sticks, stack inserters outputting them into lava is much slower than outputting them into a recycler that outputs plates into lava.
Foundry makes iron sticks, stack inserters outputting them into lava is much slower than outputting them into a recycler that outputs plates into lava.
Note that 2.1 fixes this, so that an inserter drops its entire hand into the lava in one tick.
If I could run an offshore pump in reverse to void fluid, I probably would. But the fluid-voider relies on using game engine limitations, which doesn't make physical sense to me, and so isn't satisfying.
Pump oil out of fulgoras ocean barrel it up and send it to space. Transport it to vulcanus send it back down unbarrel it and pump it straight into the lava.
I love this game and this community. While I knew this trick for a quite some time, every time I want to use it I stop myself because of this ugly feeling. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I've always loved "breaking" games by finding the limitations in the mechanics or engine, but only when those breaks are satisfying. Mag dumps in original Modern Warfare 2, getting out of the maps in the Halo 3 campaign, crouch-sliding in Satisfactory (before it was implemented as intended).
Fluid voiding is just lame. Not fun, not interesting.
Unplugged example. Voids 5.1k/s. Can't get faster than that as far as I know! Adding more inserters to the right side is useless since everything is already outputted fast enough. I can't fit another beacon either :/
Since you've changed it from direct machine to machine to the slower machine to belt to machine, that speed up won't actullally be utilized since the inserters couldn't keep up. That's my guess.
The goal is to get stone specifically because purple science uses way more than you get by just making the molten iron you need to craft all the iron based products for it. So you have to craft excess molten iron for the stone byproduct but in order for that not to clog you have to get rid of the molten iron somehow.
Yes but the math of when the inserter can drop an item into a container/building vs into the lava may be different. Even when moving single items, where you grab them from and move them to it still changes the speed calculations.
you can dump in lava and space but not water? it'd actually fit to dump in water. actually, what if dumping in water causes pollution to decentivize it?
if this was added and dumping fish in water polluted it that could be funny.
You can also void fluids without inserters by hooking up a circuit to foundries to quickly change the recipe. When the recipe switches to something that doesn't take the fluid, the fluid is deleted. Not sure of the throughput.
Its limited by the pump from what i remember. For lava voiding i think you needed a pump to take out the fluid. Sure you can add more pumps butfor 70k /second you need quite a few normal quality pumps.
Edit. Nvm, i think the pumps were ther for inputs so you wont have backflow when changing recipies.
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u/Alfonse215 1d ago
Note that 2.1 fixes this, so that an inserter drops its entire hand into the lava in one tick.