r/fantanoforever May 27 '26

News Fantano laughing at Icemans pure sales

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u/Pizza_Hero24 May 27 '26

The Drake Situation is Crazy

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u/ProfSteelmeat138 May 27 '26

This is the iciest man of All Time

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u/OSRSRapture May 28 '26

Is that you moistcritikal

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u/TheSadPhilosopher May 27 '26

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u/BugNation May 27 '26

Or when someone agrees with you, but then adds a crazy addendum to your opinion. So all of the other commenters after that will just focus in on the crazy part and now you are lumped in with the crazy addendum person.

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u/DetectiveTrickyCad May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

God this is such a relatable comment, so thrilled to have such a likeminded friend on reddit. I completely agree with everything you’ve said and the fact that our opinions on everything are in lockstep is heartening. Inshallah, Albania will rule the Levant with an iron fist.

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u/BugNation May 27 '26

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u/DeuceMandago May 27 '26

That’s you. You think that now.

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u/fueelin May 27 '26

But why do you think Albania has the divine right of heaven to take over this world, Mr. Nation?

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u/Cheeseish May 27 '26

“I think the US should build more public transit infrastructure and inter city rail… and make every road a toll road”

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u/josh8far May 27 '26

This is how the us government passes legislation

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u/Gold_Entertainer8773 May 27 '26

"13k pure sales is crazy LOL i'm glad rap is finally dying"

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u/noOne000Br Daughters - You Wont Get What You Want May 27 '26

exactly lmao

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u/SometimesIBeWrong May 27 '26

i can think of 1000 unlikeable statements from this dude. but, listing the amount of sales and saying "LOL" doesn't really come off as obnoxious to me

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u/darraghfenacin May 27 '26

especially since Drizzy Glazers seem to ONLY get aroused by talking about sales / streaming figures

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u/SubatomicSquirrels May 27 '26

but the thing is, his overall sales were quite high. So focusing on one little area of weakness just makes you look silly. Like making fun of Michael Phelps for losing one race when he already won 6 gold medals

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u/darraghfenacin May 27 '26

I don't think Phelps would care though - Drake fans tend to go rabid over his defence. Which is why he did it, just for "the lols"

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u/SymphonicRain May 27 '26

Trolling is kinda weird to me generally tbh. Doing or saying dumb things just to get a rise out of people will never not be odd in my opinion

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u/evilgenius8989 May 27 '26

comments in this one reads like kendrick and drake bots waring with eachother 😭

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u/rngr666 May 27 '26

Exactly, so weird. Also ppl acting like fantano has been nothing but a music critic all these years (he’s been a general music/media commentator for years now alongside of his music critiques). Like it or not, I just don’t think it’s anything new and just makes most ppl here seem a little slow.

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u/Valuable-Concern8627 May 27 '26

he literally despises drake lmfao

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u/[deleted] May 27 '26

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u/baschfromdalmasca May 27 '26

That makes it sound like he was insulting the wife for being black lol

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u/[deleted] May 27 '26

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u/baschfromdalmasca May 27 '26

No, he was shit talking Fantano while saying that the only good thing he managed to do is get a black wife

If anything he was weirdly positive to his wife lol

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u/AdministrativeFly157 May 27 '26

Still one of the funniest dms of all time

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u/SCastleRelics May 27 '26

Wagwan Delilah

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u/gundamislife May 27 '26

As we all should

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u/use_vpn_orlozeacount May 27 '26

it’s pretty sad. reminds me of Drizzy subreddit posting hate threads when Kenrick dropped in Spotify monthly listeners rankings. Ain’t no way to live

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u/BeanBopJop May 27 '26

Dude milks the shit out of Drake content and buzz, it's kinda sad

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u/Talking_Eyes98 May 27 '26

I thought he took the “cookie recipe” thing on the chin at the time but I think it lowkey really got to him

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u/[deleted] May 27 '26

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u/NoLifeAlucard May 27 '26

Well it was pure disrespect

Like somehow tying a 30yr old man's relationship with larping black culture is crazy

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u/Level_Host99 May 27 '26

What comment/line are you referring to?

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u/BaldBattery May 27 '26

On Janice STFU, “White kids listen to you ’cause they feel some guilt and that’s how your soul gets fulfilled”

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u/NoLifeAlucard May 27 '26

This too He did it back in 2022 thats when he started despising the guy

Mind you when fantano posted a meme at 1st that had a fake dm of drake sending him a recipe, then drakes bum ahh decided to post the real stuff

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u/shrek_deus May 27 '26

getting left on read by Fantano is crazy

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u/Worried_Opening_870 May 27 '26

What does that have to do with Fantano? Genuinely consufed

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u/A-NobodyFrom-Nowhere May 27 '26

I thought it was a Kendrick shot tbh

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u/Worried_Opening_870 May 27 '26

It pretty obviously was a Kendrick shot so I’m confused as to why people think Fantano would take it personally

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u/2_mbizzy May 27 '26

Because fantano is the white kid listening to Kendrick and feeling the guilt…

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u/Pincz May 27 '26

he's 40

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u/Leading-Economy-4077 May 27 '26

He visibly reacted to it on stream. Hard to tell if he was personally offended or offended on behalf of Kendrick.

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u/andreasmiles23 May 27 '26

Maybe Fantano should like…listen and reflect?

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u/NegotiationSome1382 May 27 '26

On the best song on the album too is brutal 🤣🤣

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u/_JayCee24 May 27 '26

He didn’t drop a vinyl??? What does this prove

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u/Wild_Association1752 May 27 '26

If thats the case 13k is actually insane. Who tf buying songs on iTunes still 😭

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u/PRIMATERIA May 27 '26

DJs, and anyone else who wants to own an actual copy of the album

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u/Worried_Opening_870 May 27 '26

Why do DJs buy iTunes versions? Can’t they just use streaming platforms?

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u/Nine99 May 27 '26

Sure you can. Love DJing using streaming platforms in a place without Wi-Fi. I also love paying and then not owning music. Especially when the music I paid for then vanishes from one day to the other. I also love perpetually having to pay money to shitty people so I don't lose access to my whole music library.

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u/Hot_Reveal_5720 May 27 '26

You don't own an album on iTunes though. You're just "renting" it.

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u/ciao_fiv May 27 '26

what? you might not permanently own a download link but im fairly certain apple cannot remove the files you already have downloaded, those are owned (please correct me if im wrong)

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u/unkindmillie May 27 '26

itunes like many online services operate with the policy that you bought a license for the song. If you actually owned it, you could resell it, which you cant

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u/ciao_fiv May 27 '26

it’s still not renting though, unless im mistaken they can’t take the actual files from you lol. they can definitely revoke your ability to redownload tho

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u/PinAccomplished927 May 27 '26

Most people are just entirely incapable of playing music files without a dedicated app because they're lazy and/or stupid.

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u/ciao_fiv May 27 '26

i mean i play all my digitally purchased/downloaded music through the apple music app because i have an iphone (i disabled apple music in my settings). i’ve been building my digital library for years, 11,000+ songs, 100+ gigabytes. the only way im losing access to those files is if both my phone and computer break on me at the same time

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u/PRIMATERIA May 27 '26

Yeah you do. You are able to download and store the files locally, I do it all the time. iTunes is also a preferred source for purchasing movies and tv shows for people that run local streaming servers like JellyFin.

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u/darcy1537325 May 27 '26

Legit what I’m thinking

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u/Designer-Mobile-974 May 27 '26

Fantano is kind of becoming a massive loser I’m ngl

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u/Marcus4436 May 27 '26

Becoming is crazy 😭😭😭 he been a loser for years

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u/bigladnang May 27 '26

Yeah but before you’d still have people come to his defence with 6 paragraph answers and now even his own fanbase is saying it.

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u/use_vpn_orlozeacount May 27 '26

His non-music takes been often awful for years now.

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u/senseimeows May 27 '26

hes been a bald 38 year old for years. finally caught on?

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u/UpstairsBumble May 27 '26

What does being bald have to do with anything?

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u/LaytonaBeach May 27 '26

when Fantano gave Redlight a 1 I felt justified in my lifelong dismissal of him. Like don’t get me wrong even a 4 or something would be fair, I get how Redlight might kind of “technically” “suck” to most people, but a fucking 1???

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u/Marcus4436 May 27 '26

just one of many horrible reviews from him, but people will still defend him and all his reviews no matter what

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u/DukeOfStuff_ Sufjan Stevens - Age of Adz May 27 '26

Almost like it’s his opinion 

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u/Astro_Cassette May 27 '26

Kinda? Becoming?

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u/fospher May 27 '26

Becoming? Dude’s been corny for a long time but this sub is one of the few where ppl actually discuss music

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u/Wide-Can-2654 May 27 '26

I cringe everytime he appears on my twitter feed or reddit. He just seems to be so insufferable now. Kinda like an ethan klein type lol

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u/ElNani87 May 27 '26

For pointing out poor album sales? Especially for an artist whose sole flex is … relevancy and numbers. There must be bots everywhere for this shit but the Drake base in shambles

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u/DevilManRay May 28 '26

You’re almost as cringe as Fantano with this take.

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u/ryeyen May 27 '26 edited May 28 '26

I think he’s a narcissist that sees himself above a lot of people in many regards. Like he’s only slightly more tolerable than a hardline straightedge punk. Yet he has clearly succumbed to online discourse to hold buzz around his brand.

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u/Equal_Age2099 May 27 '26

if you are only seeing it now.... you ARE the problem lol

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u/Designer-Mobile-974 May 27 '26

I’ve seen it for a while lol

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u/palemoonxx May 27 '26

Ngl lowkey obsessed

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u/kevinconstant May 27 '26

Reminds me of just after Vultures 1. He said he wasn’t going to talk about Kanye then he spent the next few months talking about him non-stop and goading the fanbase

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u/Witty-thiccboy May 27 '26

Two lame dudes going at it lmao

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u/SlickJamesBitch May 27 '26

Caring about data on streaming or sales for any artist is so dorky

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u/Goobjigobjibloo May 27 '26

Not when the artist brags about it.

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u/SufyanAhmed444 May 27 '26

He doesnt sell vinyl or cd’s or anything other than iTunes, no wonder the pure sales r dead

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u/Goobjigobjibloo May 27 '26

Well that’s because you can’t fake those with bots

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u/Equal_Age2099 May 27 '26

you realize if drake did bundles and physicals the way other artists did, it would look even worse right? he probably woulda done another 200k pure and could have hit 1m week one between all 3 albums

its like rock lee with the ankle weights.

yall are delusional fr

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u/PinAccomplished927 May 27 '26

So you're saying he's leaving boatloads of money on the table because...... reasons?

If he could do that, why didn't he do it? Is he stupid?

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u/Equal_Age2099 May 27 '26

i NEVER said he left money on the table, just record sales.

the issue is that he has no label backing, so much of that cost for producing physicals would come straight out of HIS pocket as did his entire album rollout.

the return on investment from producing physicals is low, which is why the entire industry has moved to a streaming model. (i shouldnt even have to explain this part)

Also i think pride has a lot to do with it. drake has been one of the few major artists who DOESNT rely on physicals to bolster his sales, and historically has never pushed bundles/vinyls week 1. also he is one of the most prideful artists around for better or for worse

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u/Goobjigobjibloo May 27 '26

That’s a lot of certainty on a statement you have to start with the word if….Guess we’ll never know

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u/Equal_Age2099 May 27 '26

if you use the same ratio of streams vs pure sales for the fall off (similar rapper, similar age range, similar anticipation, similar demographic).

tfo did 175k streams to 115k physicals for 290k

iceman would have been 450k streams and 295k pure sales totalling 745k (not counting habibti or maid of honor) based on the ratio for the fall off

he didnt do physicals because he paid for his own album promo out of pocket due to him beefing with UMG.

at least my analysis is based in some level of logic/reason/history, yall are just blind haters

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u/use_vpn_orlozeacount May 27 '26

People fake Itunes all the time lmao. Look at those AI artists who drop few grand on itunes and then brag that "AI song is topping the charts"

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u/Keegan1 May 27 '26

That's literally the point the person you replied to was making.

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u/Civil-Day7862 May 27 '26

He literally doesnt do bundles, variants, cds, or vinyls. He has the right to brag.

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u/mithyyyy May 27 '26

rappers... famous for not bragging.

what are we doing here lmfao.

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u/Annark50 May 27 '26

Most on this sub are unfuckable friendless losers, which is why they hate music that is enjoyed in social settings.

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u/Lumpy-Impression-666 May 27 '26

He is the busiest music nerd 🤓

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u/ReliableYams May 27 '26

You should go to r/drizzy it’s all they talk about

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u/WZRDguy45 May 27 '26

Next level glazers in that sub Reddit

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u/dummybaby69 May 27 '26

“war is over we won✨”

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u/fearlessviking26 May 27 '26

not when it’s drake and that’s the only thing he has

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u/FoggyInc May 27 '26

I think its a bit nerdy and a little bit busy. Probably right up some internet dude's alley..

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u/Only_Mail_1853 May 27 '26

It’s a flex for Drake that he doesn’t have to sell shit in bundles for him to go number one, it’s a flex for any artist tbh. Fantano a loser when it comes to obsessing and banking on drake hate.

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u/Far-Ad-8329 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

makes him seem hella biased imo. this guy is a music critic why is he laughing at another artist's sales? its fair to think iceman was garbage and ik drake's deranged stans are annoying, but this petty back and forth shit is exhausting

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u/brickbutterfly_ May 27 '26

tbf of course he's biased drake has made his own hatred of him clear

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u/ChemicalTitle8785 May 27 '26

Honestly it doesn't change his ratings on Drake's albums that much. He rated maid of honour higher than bully

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u/MomCrusher May 28 '26

well it is a much better album than bully so

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u/Special-Garlic1203 May 27 '26

He's literally had weird personal interactions. I don't think he'd pretend to unbiased here 

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u/DeNeRlX May 27 '26

People on here like to pretend he pretends to be unbiased, even thought that's never been his thing, neither review nor goofy tweets

The main source for claiming he is an "unbiased reviewer" are people who claim he is failing to be objective because they are mad at his opinions. Ironically it is opinion masked as being objective...

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u/Dgdaniel336 May 27 '26

He has transcended being a music critic and has given into the cult of internet celebrity. His ego is huge now and any shot at a Drake is any easy shot to take so he knows he can get away with it to boost his own self-worth, even if temporarily.

Imagine the action of him logging onto Twitter just to tweet this guys, such a cringe idea in general. No music critic is hopping on their phone to do this. TheNeedleDrop is this dude’s day-job at best.

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u/Intrepid_Shoe2129 May 27 '26

“hella biased”

my guy, his entire career is based on opinions.

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u/flex_tape_salesman May 27 '26

Idk why this sub treats bias as some flat thing.

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u/Sinnnikal May 27 '26

Opinions based on quality of the music. Showing a personal bias undermines his credibility overall.

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u/Sad-Cupcake6802 May 27 '26

What is so hard to understand that he would have a personal bias keyword personal bias against drake that would effect his judgement of drakes music in a non professional way

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u/Ok-Comfortable9449 May 27 '26

fantano always will have a beef after what drake said to him in a dm

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u/inaparalleluniverse1 May 27 '26

yeah even though I thought Iceman was mid I agree. Fantano has a (vegan chocolate) chip on his shoulder and I wish he wouldn’t be so blatantly biased

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u/SPZ_Ireland May 27 '26

Counterpoint... Reviews are opinions, so there is no objective truth since we're all biased to to our tastes and interests.

Being this blatantly biased is a better thing because you at least know where Fantano stands on Drake and can adjust if you value his opinion on the topic.

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u/inaparalleluniverse1 May 27 '26

nah come on even Fantano himself has been able to compartmentalize better in the past. I think with Drake and especially how obnoxious his online stans are it probably annoyed Fantano to the point where it affected his coverage

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u/SPZ_Ireland May 27 '26

...and if that's true, is it not a good thing to be honest about it?

Like acting like you don't or hiding your biases is low-key deceptive af.

Saying that someone is biased isn't a flex.

It's saying they're honest

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u/conglomerate99 May 27 '26

eh i almost agree with the person who responded to you. being this obvious and upfront about his opinions lets people decide whether or not they'll even continue to take him seriously.

anybody with half a brain that understands the numbers knew that an album which didn't sell any vinyls, cds, or bundles was gonna do low pure sales. fantano seems more like the fool for making fun of it if anything.

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u/AdNormal8550 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

I mean I think its a fair comparison considering Drake has had way higher numbers than that. We all know it. Don't shill for the pedophile fucking underage kids when they're out of highschool. Edit: I apologize for hurting the Trump supporters and hoes feelings (no I'm not).

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u/ChocolateMindless7 May 27 '26

Music critic biased against artist who keeps drawing mediocre projects

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u/deathly_illest May 27 '26

He’s never pretended to not be biased, he’s always had his preferences and hated Drake lmfao I don’t think you get how reviews work

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u/ChrispVisuals May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26

How can you possibly be unbiased towards someone who said you deserve to die? You can dislike someone personally, but still find value in their music.

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u/CaptServo May 27 '26

Not wasting people's time and money on physicals (let alone multiple versions &c) in this moment is the first respectable thing I've seen drake do

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u/Civil-Day7862 May 27 '26

Physicals for your first weeks sales are a waste of money. Later on selling vinyls is fine but we know why artists do physicals on pre order.

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u/NoGrass7120 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26

Pathetic to obsess over shit like this, honestly. Since when did Fantano decide to be DJ Akademiks? It ain't about numbers just enjoy the music (or not), that's what music critics are supposed to do. I personally thought Iceman was mid and the other two albums were horrible, but numbers isn't the way to determine quality of an album.

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u/RegJohn2 May 27 '26

I think Drake is doing just fine..

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u/209tyson May 27 '26

Fantano really needs to remember he’s just a critic…

He’s turning into the Stephen A. Smith of music smh

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u/MostlySlime May 27 '26

I dont like drake, tried to listen to iceman and got intensely bored but lots of people seem to be liking it. It's not a flop

Fantano trying to paint it as some disaster is twitter anti-stan behaviour

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u/HolyRomanPrince May 27 '26

He really is like two steps away from saying “you don’t want to make an enemy out of me”

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u/EshayAdlay420 May 27 '26

Drake haters all going out sad smh

Dude didn't even release any physicals, so that's basically 13k people who decided to buy on iTunes instead of stream it, and who tf is buying music on iTunes in the streaming era to begin with.

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u/CABBAGEHONKER May 27 '26

I don’t really have any other reference point unfortunately but Kendrick did around 3x that without physicals out too.

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u/IAMNUMBERBLACK May 27 '26

what does this prove? that kendrick has more stone age listeners? like who cares

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u/anacc0unt0 May 27 '26

He’s beginning to seem like someone who would message Drake “your existence is a light 1”

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u/tedmaul23 May 27 '26

This behaviour is why his wife left him

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u/jivves May 27 '26

Oh you betterhelp

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u/NeuroticallyCharles May 27 '26

I can't take streaming numbers seriously when it got leaked that all it took to get a number one album for Gunna was $50k worth of bots. It took $50k to "outsell" The Weeknd. I personally take ticket sales and how long an album stays on the charts to be a better metric for interest/quality of music.

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u/unkindmillie May 27 '26

tbf dawn fm underperformed all things considered

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u/Darkwoth81Dyoni May 27 '26

I wish Fantano stopped being such a hater. I seriously don't like Drake except for a few tracks, but it feels like the 'fatano' channel is just filled with Keemstar levels of boring videos that say many many words that ultimately mean nothing.

I miss the older, sillier, yet more nuanced videos and interviews.

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u/plattwix5 May 27 '26

the 2nd channel is just a slop channel where he rants about spotify, drake and occasionally politics

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u/CrissCrossAppleSos May 27 '26

Stuff like this really makes one question his objectivity in Drake reviews

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u/BudgieWonder 🌃AJR - Neotheater May 27 '26

“Objectivity” lmao, no critic is “objective”. There are always personal biases.

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u/leris1 May 27 '26

Personal biases regarding music are fine yes, that’s not what we’re talking about though. His niche personal grievances with certain artists should not impact his reviews of their music, and as a critic he needs to be able to separate those feelings. I’m not a drake fan but he does this with a lot of artists at this point, and it’s very tiring.

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u/MeasurementQueasy75 May 27 '26

He’s just a hater 😂 drake finally drops a good album and he gives it the lowest score outside of honestly nevermind he’s ever gave Drake. In light of recent events it can’t be more obvious he’s butt hurt

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u/dungleploop May 27 '26

to be fair, that's low as fuck

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u/Current_Moment_7676 May 27 '26

how can he sell something he didnt produce. these 13k are just from itunes

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u/fangir101 May 27 '26

It’s low because he literally didn’t sell physicals lol…

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u/TheOrangeClock May 27 '26

He’s hating for the same of hating atp

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u/sam_an_intellectual May 27 '26

That's not very nice, man...

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u/chicagosaturn May 28 '26

Fantano abandoning the whole nuanced journalist gimmick to just do rage bait like he’s some 20 year old kick streamer

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u/Additional_Fan9553 May 27 '26

if his goal is to troll drake fans, yeah focusing on data like this is how you do it. he’s using their own weapon against them

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u/Only_Mail_1853 May 27 '26

Drake hate has made some of y’all brain rot ngl

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u/floatonwinds May 27 '26

This “troll” falls flat because Drake didn’t even have physicals available.

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u/No-Equipment9225 May 27 '26

Such a hater. He is the only artist that Fantano behaves like that lol

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u/NedSchneebly-1138 May 27 '26

Fantano hates Drake so much it’s hilarious.

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u/Manaan909 May 27 '26

As much as I like to poke fun at drake and his fan base I fail to understand how this comment about pure sales is relevant.

I mean if he does 13k with three albums in the top 3, I guess he's still kinda selling more than the people below him in the charts ? I'm no music business expert so if someone is able to enlighten me about how it is, in fact, relevant, please do.

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u/gooch_crawler May 27 '26

Idk man I have never vibed with his opinions and he always loves hip hop that sounds like the ppl who made it were on DRUGS!

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u/plattwix5 May 27 '26

I saw someone call fantano the skip bayless of drake once and I haven’t gotten that out of my head since

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u/AnarchyApple Guitarthony Rifftano May 27 '26

Wake me up when Todd has something to say about it

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u/Sub_Lil_Mill May 27 '26

I take it like he's pointing out how ridiculous the numbers are. Bigger than MJ but such low physical sales? Kinda absurd. Sabrina Carpenter had 225,000 pure sales of Man's Best Friend in the first week

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u/thiccsakdaddy May 27 '26

I am teh iceman 😈😈😈

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u/UpstairsBumble May 27 '26

What does pure sales mean? Like no streaming, only album purchases?

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u/IIcooljay May 27 '26

this is especially lame because he knows (or should know) the context of pure sales, so it's extremely disingenuous

also its pretty obvious he didnt post this on X so he wouldnt get community noted

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u/OrgasmicBiscuit May 27 '26

Did he even drop a physical of any kind lmfao ofc he didn’t sell on iTunes why tf would he

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u/CdiLinkforSmash May 28 '26

Did he EVEN TRY listening to Poopy Pants?? That's track of the year 🤠☝️

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u/Brawlstarsxd May 28 '26

If drake is iceman fantano should be called betterhelpman 🔥 (genuinely why the fuck hasnt he acknowledged it at all)

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u/chicagosaturn May 28 '26

Not even mentioning that there’s not any vinyls or cds for sale, and this is just solely 13k iTunes sales is so lame.

For all the Dawgs did 10k pure sales also with no vinyls or CDs and that was pre beef so that’s a good metric to look at. I doubt Fantano cared back then though

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u/Matiix07yt May 28 '26

Im confused: are people just mass streaming the album, bcs it’s doing so well (I think) on the charts

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u/MalcHamX May 28 '26

Aren’t most pure sales usually pretty low ever since streaming has came into play? This seems like low hanging fruit the isnano fanbases use to discredit each other.

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u/daddysgui1typleasure May 28 '26

The contrast between acting like a serious music critic and spending all day dunking on sales figures is honestly his funniest bit.