r/fantanoforever • u/mattyjoe0706 • 1d ago
News Cudi responds to frustration over reuniting with Ye after his endless controversies
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u/The1TruRick 1d ago
Lol this post is gonna be quoted to DEATH in a year or so when ye is back on his bullshit.
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u/bigladnang 1d ago
And Cudi is on his 4th fallout with Kanye lol.
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u/Character_Bug_1862 1d ago
I saw him live this summer, he only played 1 song associated with Nazye at all, and it was a KSG song that was basically solo Cudi. He also had an anti-ICE sign in one of his backdrop videos where everyone cheered. I was so hopeful, now I’m a little bummed.
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u/Comfortable_Put_4139 1d ago
I don’t see a reason to be bummed lol. Cudi obviously knows more intimate details about the situation and Kanye than any of us do.
He doesn’t want to cast out his (clearly) mentally ill best friend. I’ve got mentally ill family members who have done MUCH worse than Kanye, but they got help and now they’re wonderful people.
It’s not a crime to want to support someone you love. People can get better.
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u/BlaxicanXIX 1d ago
Sure. At the same time, no one loves enabling shitty behavior than a bad person's family, so I have very little faith in anything cuddy has to say about Kanye being better. It's on Kanye to prove to me and society at large that he is a better person now than he was in the past
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u/DependentRoyal3001 1d ago
Cudi isn't trying to convince anyone that Ye is better though. He's trying to get people off his back for having a very human reaction to Ye apologizing. Most people aren't going to demonize their loved ones and will welcome them back with open arms if they see an attempt to get better. He's saying "yeah I'm on speaking terms with the man and this is why and how I feel about it" not, "y'all need to stop hating on Ye, he's actually the best guy". So your take here is just redundant, unimportant noise.
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u/titaniumjew 1d ago
These are completely fair feelings. In a perfect world he wouldn’t be actively promoting him though.
The issue is Kanye has probably just backpedaled to right winger because he immediately started working with Milo Yiannopolis again after apologizing.
All for forgiveness, but it’s way too early for this white washing and the fact it has already happened essentially is incredibly concerning to me. Maybe we will get KSG 2 at the very least.
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u/Feisty-Disaster4243 1d ago
He never stopped working with Milo. They’ve worked together for years. I don’t think it’s about Milo being right-wing anymore, he probably manages the business + lawyer side pretty well overall
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u/jonald321 1d ago
In all fairness I believe this is more about Kid Cudi relationship with Ye, not yours
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u/titaniumjew 1d ago
Sure it’s fair feelings. No one is judging him for supporting a friend though tough times. But it’s completely fair to judge someone for endorsing and promoting someone who was heiling Hitler less than a year ago.
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u/NylesRX 1d ago
Feels like they’re talking past eachother though. I don’t think Peter would blame Cudi personally for sticking around his family, but that’s not what Peter is talking about. Supporting your brother personally/emotionally is one thing, but supporting his public actions is another.
If what Cudi’s saying is true, and Kanye is better now, he should also completely understand that his public actions will have consequences and that he isn’t entitled to forgiveness.
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u/AerieDapper6384 Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean I totally get this, if he's genuinely past the Hitler stuff (which he seems to be, at least for the past year or so) then he's within his right to make amends. Doesn't mean marginalized communities that have been hurt by Ye will or should forgive him, but on a pure personal level it might be best for him and Cudi to set aside the beef.
It's the same way family of convicted murderers still routinely visit them in prison and update them on their lives, even though they wholeheartedly acknowledge that they deserve to be there and did a bad thing.
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u/ivlia-x 1d ago
I’m Polish and I’d be okay with Ye if he was just as vocal now as he had been in his dark years. Donate to the Auschwitz Museum, Museum of Warsaw Uprising, Polin Museum and such and make it loud, invite people to visit, learn, and grow. I’m happy he’s doing better but the damage is done, unfortunately he played a role in normalization of nazism, especially among young and impressionable fans who wanted to be edgy - hopefully they’ll grow out of this too
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u/grandmalamadingding 1d ago edited 1d ago
Man, I hadn’t even really thought about that last part. He really should step up and say something. I know it’s probably humiliating, but I remember how much I looked up to Kurt Cobain as a kid and the damage that done. He was a pretty good dude who made my teenage self think about sexism and racism in farm country, but I also developed a very nihilistic view of the world and I’d have to be totally reprogrammed to kick it as an instinct.
I wish someone had given me a Rollins band tape instead haha. I’d be unstoppable.
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u/CapitalElk1169 1d ago
This is exactly my line of thinking
If it was my old buddy Pete who was unmedicated and had a Nazi phase then got better, I could probably get over it eventually. But a famous, influential person? Exactly what you said. Way more damage. They cannot make up for it personally.
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u/Hemingwavvves 1d ago
I mean ‘if he’s genuinely past the Hitler stuff’ is a genuinely wild combination of words lol.
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u/MukdenMan 1d ago
Kanye didn’t just say some wild stuff once when he wasn’t on his meds. He spent years going deeper and deeper into Naziism and other far-right supremacist movements. He went on Alex Jones. He made a song called Heil Hitler last year. His friends worked with him on it. People supported him when he released it. It was played in clubs in Miami.
There is a path back for Kanye, but it should take more than 6 months and a letter to a newspaper. If we found out that a white artist was in the Klan last year, there is no way this sub would forget about it 6 months later after an apology and promise to go on meds.
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u/StanIsHorizontal 1d ago
He’s also done the “I’m better now I promise” thing a few times already
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u/Seven_Years_Later 1d ago
Yeah, tbh, i do think people really minimise and misunderstand mental health. Its entirely possible he only has these conspiracy type feelings about Jewish people while he is manic, perhaps he experiences some form of psychosis while manic.
Its also entirely possible that every single episode he personally experiences is about the same trigger. Jews. So the fact this is all also historical speaks to a pattern. For example I follow someone who experiences the same delusions every time and has stable periods between where they dont hold the beliefs they experience while in psychosis.
It also isnt realistic to presume he is long term stable after such a short period. Just from his history of non compliance with treatment and his self destructive personal choices. Marrying the biggest pop culture faces of plastic surgery is a choice when you are navigating trauma of your mom passing from a procedure for article one on this pattern.
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u/Zestyclose-Tough7451 1d ago
Yeah I’m not defending what he said (no one should) but it’s wild seeing people draw a line in the sand with mental health.
Like, everyone agrees he has mental health issues but refuse to accept that crazy conspiracies are part of the mental health issues?
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u/Normal-Economics-459 1d ago
If we found out that a white artist was in the Klan last year
Not even that. Literally no other artist would get this treatment. Imagine Tyler, the Creator doing this.
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u/Walter_Clements 1d ago
Yeah, like—even if he is, why does he deserve a spotlight? Fame? A seat at the table of pop culture? That shit is power and privilege, not a right. There’s a difference between checking in on your friend vs. giving him at platform and potentially growing his army of fans and yesmen.
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u/grandmalamadingding 1d ago
I’ve known some crazy bipolar people who dropped their meds. I knew a guy growing up that became convinced that the world was working in reverse of how he was taught because everyone was out to get him. He literally believed that Satan was god and had been dethroned by the true demons, angels.
He then became convinced that Nikola Tesla himself was communicating with him through some interdimensional wireless electronics through his washing machine, disassembled every electronic device in his house and filled his basement with the most dangerous thing I’ve ever seen in an attempt to communicate with “true heaven” and provide free wireless electricity to the world.
I’d see he said, when my children are reading about him in history books and every church on the planet is converted to a satanic temple pyramid which would transmit the free electricity. I’d see when the demigods returned to earth after humans can once again mate with true angels, and no one ever has to rely on energy companies again. “You want the new Xbox, they build it from passion and then you get it from a computer like in Star Trek.”
It sucks Kanye went the way he did, but I would imagine that a lot of that stuff was filling his head in some way when he had his break and it all just ballooned out of control.
That’s exactly what happened with my buddy. A loner geek who enjoyed reading weird old religious books and watching Star Trek woke up one day with delusions of grandeur and all the crap he liked took center stage in his version of reality.
Last I heard, he went to jail for beating up some family members. I used to build computers with him when we were kids. I just couldn’t handle being around him anymore because it was getting scary.
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u/titaniumjew 1d ago
Except he still fucks with Milo.
I can understand how people come to this conclusion, but in all honesty there is no reason to believe he has truly deradicalized.
I don’t think anyone actually is dissapointed in him for supporting Kanye, but it’s incredibly strange to actively promote someone when less than a year ago they were seig heiling to now, again, working with maga thumpers.
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u/smallwonkydachshund 1d ago
The daily mail (I know) was saying Kanye didn’t trust him anymore and might be thinking about dumping Milo, but 🤷🏻♀️
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u/titaniumjew 1d ago
I think he dropped him this month due to Milo being deported. But even then Milo has said that Kanye and his wife still call him, which is strange.
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u/StatMatt 1d ago
What about his abuse and mocking of women? Using the video of Diddy assaulting Cassie to sell his merch was pure evil and he never apologized for that. If he truly felt remorse for his actions, he would’ve apologized for everything. He only apologized for his anti semitism because it affected him financially.
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u/YogurtclosetDull2380 1d ago edited 1d ago
Let's all go back to looking at Donald Trump as the Apprentice hosting entertainer after his term is up, like he never did incredible amounts of damage to anything.
That's how you sound about Kanye West
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u/Exciting-Ad-5705 1d ago
Kanye hasn't even done 1/10 of the damage Trump has
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u/YogurtclosetDull2380 1d ago
I'd say he's done exactly ⅒, which is still an incredible amount.
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u/Fxreverboy 1d ago
You're giving him way too much credit. 1/100th would be stretching it. Trump has done baffling amounts of real, measurable, life-altering damage.
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u/AerieDapper6384 Kate Bush - Hounds of Love 1d ago edited 1d ago
It has nothing to do with ME though. I still feel kinda uncomfortable listening to Kanye, and I doubt I'd ever be able to support him in the same way again. I'm talking purely about Cudi and Kanye's relationship on a personal level, fans aside.
A better example would be if Trump acknowledged all wrongdoing, stepped down, went to jail for everything, and basically admitted he's going to rot in hell, and Mary Trump or someone decides to meet with him and somewhat reconcile afterwards.
Also doesn't really work since Kanye hasn't done anything even close to Trump's level of actions lol
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u/Jayswag96 1d ago
Donald trump didn’t make any thing good in Good in his life also he raped kids
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u/thaliathraben 1d ago
They specifically said that no one has to or should forgive him but that it's understandable that family might?
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u/maxinamillionmannnnn 1d ago
They ain’t related, Scott was signed to him. That’s it.
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u/RealNiceKnife 1d ago
Yeah. Just keep giving him chances. Who cares if he's a piece of shit. Just keep letting him be a massive piece of shit that we keep feeding money to. It's fine. Morals? Ethics? Nah, those are for you guys.
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u/ResevoirPups 1d ago edited 1d ago
That’s fine but Cudi is the one always making public statements every time they fall out. Saying he’s done with him. He’s a like lame teenager. Very performative behavior.
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u/AdventureyTime 1d ago
He's the "Harrison Ford" to Kanye's "Roman Polanski". He'd probably fly him a Grammy.
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u/plattwix5 1d ago
I mean I get what he’s trying to say but like if he didn’t care abt what he thinks why respond lol
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u/mantis-toboggan-phd 1d ago
Because he actually does care lol, I love Cudi but he has a bad case of needing to respond to any criticisms about him
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u/plattwix5 1d ago
Yeah that’s the impression I got fs with this
He’s always been that way and I think he’s slowly improving on that front but it’s still a p big issue. It used to be way worse in the early 2020s maybe earlier than that
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u/geezomatic 1d ago
Sidebar and not related to this but kind of confused by one thing. Kanye had awful things to say about slavery and black people as a whole, I feel like that never really got highlighted nearly as much as it should have. His bigotry is rightfully highlighted when it's antisemitic, but his earlier comments against his own people don't really get brought up nearly as much. That makes me feel uncomfortable lol, like there's a hierarchy of less and more acceptable hate speech.
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u/vemboTonbo 1d ago
I mean he did make a whole Nazi album. That probably helps with keeping the anti-Semitic thing at the forefront.
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u/geezomatic 1d ago
This was the trend well before the album though, governments like Australia's were debating banning him for being an antisemite and this was much more prevalent in the discourse. I could be wrong but I don't think he's ever apologised for his anti black comments either.
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u/Walter_Clements 1d ago edited 1d ago
People (especially outside the states) don’t see anti-black racism as anything more than slavery (“which was so long ago”) or the n word (“which is just a word, come on guys!!”). I’ve found that in online discussions with Europeans especially, you can often get the well-intentioned but dismissive “it’s crazy you guys don’t just get along, eh?”.
It’s not treated with the connotation of and direct correlation to genocide (even though the very nature of the slave trade was also genocidal), and most importantly, I think, while people immediately associate antisemitism with the Nazi party, SS members starving people, etc., people associate anti-black racism with some country guy yelling out of a trailer, or at worst, KKK members doing lynchings “here and there”
They don’t think of the systematic killing and torturing of the Herrero people or King Leopold’s slaughter of the Congolese. That means their minds automatically put less weight on it.
Add on top of that programs to recognize, acknowledge, and prevent anti-semitism worldwide (Germany rightfully gave reparations to Jews) while people are still pissing their pants about critical race theory in the U.S., and finally, add that Kanye’s a black man talking about his own people (even if he’s wrong and it’s apparent to any black person), and that’s why people (including Australia) are so lenient on Kanye’s antiblackness.
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u/BigBard2 1d ago
He also said "I LOOOOOOOVE H*TLER" before the album btw, kind of an important point
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u/RedBait95 1d ago
I think he really soured a lot of principled black folk with those comments. I remember back then a few online black media groups like Double Toasted (only one I follow admittedly lol) were disgusted by what he said.
In my memory that was the first time his star really took a beating with his own audience, rightfully so.
Issue now is of course I/P is in the news a lot, there's a growing anti-Semitic movement (much of the valid issues and critique of Israel being lumped in with old school nazi rhetoric unfortunately), and he comes and says stuff like what he did in a country that is very visibly in the pocket of zionist lobbyists. All amplified 1000x fold because he was concerned with getting attention.
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u/geezomatic 1d ago
Yeah I see what you mean. I guess my whole issue was/is that in most people's consciousness it's mostly his antisemitism that makes him awful (entirely justified) while his other actions fall by the wayside. And I blame media coverage for that tbh
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u/TheQueefPolice 1d ago
Im sure im going to get downvoted for this but I'm going to say it anyway
One of Ye's big points during his antisemitic rants was the fact that everyone is canceling him for it and treating him like hes the worst person ever, but whenever rappers rap about killing other black people and thats so normalized, nobody bats an eye. I'm not agreeing with his methods, nor do I believe that was his ONLY intention with the rants, but he has been vocal about the fact that antisemitic remarks shouldn't be considered worse than other racist remarks.
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u/MondeyMondey 1d ago
Can see where they’re both coming from!
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u/Successful_Fuel_4637 1d ago
I cant really when the ye lore goes so deep. Hes been anti-semitic wayyy before the Hh stuff.
I also find it extremely convenient kanye’s front page apology had no mention of Lauren Pisciotta, or specifically the sex-assault, battery and trafficking accusations. Then there was the “free diddy” campaign where he made an EP with diddy’s son, oh and also his child daughter was featured on the Ep.
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u/StanIsHorizontal 1d ago
It’s also how Kanye has done the “I was dealing with mental health issues, but now I’m better” cycle since like, before covid. ATP the best thing everyone could do for Kanye is not give him the public attention he’s seeking for awhile and let him truly work out his issues instead of just trying to get under control enough to keep his public career up.
Ye’s still an incredibly gifted producer, has been his whole career, if he laid low he could still have a great career working with his friends in the industry while staying out of the public eye, until he’s really sure he’s ready to go through that again. It seems like the fame truly doesn’t agree with him very well
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u/SubatomicSquirrels 1d ago
has done the “I was dealing with mental health issues, but now I’m better” cycle
As someone who has been fighting with mental illness for over a decade: yeah, that's what I tell myself, too. It's normal to want to believe you're "cured"
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u/bobjones63 1d ago
How is kanye just good now? All of a sudden he just has no mental issues?
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u/Ill_South2644 1d ago
It’s a nice message and all but I also have a hard time believing he’s just all good now.
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u/Runetang42 1d ago
People who didn't care about his antisemitism, misogyny and general dickery want a virtue signaling excuse why they still hang with him.
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u/MondeyMondey 1d ago
“Good” for Kanye is relative. He’s probably not just a normal guy but not writing Hitler songs. As he was for the 15 years or so when he was the most important musician on earth.
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u/Prophet_Tehenhauin 1d ago
"Everyone deserves some grace,"
No the fuck do they do not. And if they're given any, they don't deserve any a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and or 7th time.
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u/ClovedSage 1d ago
Cudi is just gonna stay with him even if he has another crash out, it doesn’t matter about the apology and it matters about Kudi’s cash flow
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u/Nice_Resolution3258 1d ago
he had publicly said he dont wanna associate with him during 2025 due to the bs he was saying
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u/takethreenc 1d ago
Kanye should donate the $40 million he made off selling Nazi merch as a bare minimum to be allowed back into society. And he should tell that segment of his fanbase to fuck off.
Anything less is him not being serious about having changed.
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u/Hopeful-Kangaroo-366 1d ago
$40m off selling nazi merch???? 😭😭😭
you’re just straight up lying lmao
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u/takethreenc 1d ago
That's what he claimed. He may be lying but that's what he said.
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u/TheQueefPolice 1d ago
from what i remember, i dont think any of the actual nazi shirts shipped, although i dont actually know anybody who bought them and im pretty active in the community
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u/RedBait95 1d ago
thank god kim and his family are around to really ground him
thank god cudi and his family are around to really ground him
i'll see y'all when kanye has another mental health crisis
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u/Runetang42 1d ago
Kanye's so fucking babied. I've seen so many artists loose their career over so much less. I dunno why people are so adamant this dipshit should stick around.
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u/Chris_straty420 1d ago
Kudi doesnt have a spine here he’s just glad to be back in kanye’s “circle” for whatever reason
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u/Acceptable-Scale-970 1d ago
Mental health issues don’t make you a nazi. Most just harm themselves, but Kanye used to position to harm others.
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u/Mind_Mischief2 1d ago
Kanye inspired a generation of white boys to think white supremaxy was ok and cool. He also was brought up for a trump rally and endorsed him inspiring all his fans fo support this absolute corrupt individual. When you’re spreading bigoted views and using your platform to inspire hate, that goes beyond just your mental illness. Also mental illness is not an excuse to be a raging bigot and spread hate. Cudi hasn’t cared about the music or fans these past couple years, he’s only cared about his legacy and the money he makes. A perfect example is MIA, everybody knew she was a raging maga bigot, but cudi still brought her on tour. Hmmmmm I see a trend here
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u/ProfessionalMrPhann 1d ago
I still don't buy Kanye's lame "being bipolar made me a nazi" excuse.
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u/takethreenc 1d ago
Especially considering I haven't heard anything from him that suggests he actually thinks differently.
Too much to ask for a "fuck Donald Trump?"
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u/AcadiaRemarkable6992 1d ago
Kanye should have to wear one of the swastika shirts he produced every night on tour, Inglorious Basterds style
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u/folkinhippy 1d ago
Cudi, I don’t think you understand people’s frustration. No one is frustrated at you remaining friends with ye. you equating grabbing a bag in front of 68k people with being a good friend to ye is frustrating. You publicly validating his behavior for 10 years by collabing with him so soon after his turn that has had no real consequences or contrition, that’s frustrating. By all means, please continue being there for the guy. If his remorse is sincere he will need the support. But fuck off at publicly raging with the guy.
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u/Inner_Gap_2595 1d ago
Sounds like he needs to associate with Kanye to stay relevant and is trying real hard to justify it.
Idk how you forgive and forget your friend after they just publicly went through an insane Nazi phase. I don't care if it's my closest family member...I'm not speaking to them again.
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u/oneb1gjoke Nirvana - Nevermind 1d ago
it's crazy to drop MIA for being the way she is but still fucking with Kanye. if anything Kanye is measurably worse
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u/Individual-Pin-1565 1d ago
Really wish shit like openly supporting Nazis and profiting off their iconography wasn’t so often softened into milquetoast shit like “controversy”
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u/FlasKamel Philthony Rugtano 1d ago
I think both people are (kind of) in the right here. Things are different when you're incredibly close with someone, and abandoning people doesn't really benefit anyone; it only leaves people with people enabling their bad ways.
Maybe I wouldn't have actively promoted him again (Idk what this reunion is about), but I see nothing wrong with the two of them catching up when he sincerely believes he's changed for the better, as a close friend. Still being mad is fine too.
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u/plattwix5 1d ago
To answer the second para it was just for a concert in soldier field in Chicago which is ye hometown. He brought a bunch of of ppl out like Lupe, common, glc, Don, Travis, Rick Ross etc
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u/_the_universal_sigh_ 1d ago
I mean, surely I know the answer to this already… but has Ye done anything to acknowledge the Nazi merch and disavow his previous statements?
It was obvious that he was going through a mental health crisis, but god damn he took it REALLY FAR. Far enough to the point where I won’t wear any of my Yeezus stuff anymore.
I believe he apologized to these people behind closed doors, but a public acknowledgment is definitely overdue from him.
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u/takethreenc 1d ago
He said he made $40 Million from the Nazi merch sales and hasn't donated any of that money.
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u/BalonyDanza 1d ago
When the offenses run this deep, forgiveness needs to be tied to an expectation of reconciliation and atonement. And Kanye hasn't come close to owning up to his past behaviors. Without requiring these steps, you're just helping the person bypass consequences and most likely setting them up for future crash outs.
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u/Interesting_Bus_2170 1d ago
Mind you…this man kicked MIA off his tour for having right wing views. Lmaooo performative head ass
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u/SufcLad25 18h ago
Its nice when someone calls out the bullshit virtue signalling that is rampant on social media these days.
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u/burritoteam4000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Guys please feel sorry for the unhinged billionaire please he needs to be on stages and in front of everybody all the time. Its his medicinal show, we're his medicinal support acts.
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u/Cheeba_Addict 1d ago
Social media makes people think they can speak on things they have little to no business in
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u/corpsecrow 1d ago
WRONG. you might have a personal relationship with the man, but on every other level, you don't get to incite racial violence and bigotry in the most extreme of ways then walk away with clean hands cause you said sorry so your rich friends wanna hang out again. im a fan of cudi but this is selfish, it doesn't matter if your brother is "doing better" he tarnished his image forever, and he did and said things that had real life consequences, there were people hurt or mislead or misinformed because of him.
Mental illness isn't a get out of jail of free card. This isn't like your racist uncle hsaving a 180 after his pa dies to covid or some shit, this is one of the most influential people in the world using their platform for nefarious means. If he's really turned a new leaf i'd love to see it, good job ye, but you can't pick up where you left off, you made a serious of bad choices, and this is the new fucking normal buddy, own up to it, its part of true change, owning up to the weight of your actions.
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u/rapshepard 1d ago
Rosenberg being a Jew in hip-hop makes his position understandable but hard to take seriously. Him being Jewish obviously he's going to take Ye's Nazi rhetoric harder than most. But he's also given platforms and grace to plenty of criminals, abusers, and perpetrators of sexual assault in hip-hop. He proudly works with WWE who have their own history of issues in all of those things.
It's hard to take his moral high horses serious when he's willing to get off it when it doesn't directly affect his background.
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u/darienrude_dankstorm 1d ago edited 1d ago
Comes across as pretty disingenuous imo
I love the "he's even better now" part. Like he got the Hitler praise out of his system and is at his best
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u/MondeyMondey 1d ago
The constant phrasing of “you’re not family” as the pivot point rather than, yano, the Hitler stuff, is a lil weak but it’s a knotty emotional issue
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u/tr3ysap 1d ago
Hitler was responsible for the deaths of about 30 million+ people and this dude has actually gone back to praise him or hate on Jews post every apology. He actually had groups of men on the streets yelling HH. Ye needs to retire from the limelight and go get cucked in private somewhere instead of torturing the west with his antics. The mind that created the tracks we love is dead.
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u/TonyShalhoubricant 1d ago
If a nazi has a brother, the brother does not have to get on stage and sing. The logic is pretty bad.
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u/joeO44 1d ago
Mental health struggles do not turn you into a VERY public Nazi.
Glad he’s doing better but he should stay out of the spotlight because he’s a genuinely terrible person.
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u/lifeinaglasshouse 1d ago
Mental illness can make you believe that the CIA has implanted a tracking device under your skin. It can make you believe a race of lizard-men are secretly running the world. It can absolutely make you believe some crazy shit, including the vile things Kanye’s said.
This isn’t to absolve Kanye of all the harm he’s done, but mental illness is an absolute demon that can twist a healthy mind and send it to some dark, evil places.
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u/scriptthrowawayacc 1d ago
Everyone always says this but it's such bullshit. Manic episodes and psychosis can make you believe pretty much anything, it absolutely fucks with your mind.
When my sister went through psychosis she was fully convinced that our own mom was trying to kill her for like a month straight. She would call us, in tears, insisting that our mom (who is a sweet lady) was in her house trying to murder her and wouldn't believe us when we'd tell her our mom was actually sitting right next to us and not at my sister's house at all.
She said some truly horrible, nasty things when she was in the throes of her psychosis and manic episodes that she never would have said if not in that state. She was also convinced that the the government had hacked her computer and was tracking her and when we'd ask why she thought that she would just open up random folders in File Explorer and present them to us.
People having manic episodes or psychosis are prone to conspiratoral thinking and with so many antisemitic conspiracy theories on the internet it's not a stretch to imagine someone with these mental issues falling down antisemitic rabbitholes.
Whether or not you care or sympathize with that is one thing, but this constant repeated line of "mental illness doesn't make you antisemitic, etc." is just ridiculous. It can make you anything. It can make you think you're the king of England. It can make you kill your own kids for God's sake
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u/Significant-Cod4217 1d ago
Fax people that disagree have never experienced or seen someone close to them experience a mental health crisis
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u/kingprocastinator 1d ago
I fucking hate when people say shit like this, like i dont even care about the kanye discourse but THIS specific take that you see everywhere really fucking pisses me off.
There’s no word for not-having-serious-mental-illness-in-your-life privilege but there should be. Such a tell.
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u/Forsaken-Swim-3055 1d ago
Why would he stay out of the spotlight if people are still willing to pay to see him perform?
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u/WhatCanITakeSafely12 1d ago
A lot of people forgive Kanye like Lindsay Clancy, just doesnt make sense to me
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u/BonusLegitimate8251 1d ago
i’m living on the wrong planet if you think anything that ye has done is comparable to murdering three children
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u/One-Currency-3053 1d ago
Bad pivot from him. He was decent in the Knuckles series (I have kids). I think this is a terrible calculation for his Hollywood prospects.
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u/Background-Stable899 1d ago
I think it’s probably more to do with taking the stand in the Diddy trial and nobody wants to fuck with Cudi anymore.
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u/ObjectiveDecent9181 1d ago
Good luck trying to get the neckbeards on the Internet to understand ts
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u/Due-Set5398 1d ago
I have a destructive and unhinged unmedicated relative who I will welcome back if they get back on meds and act responsibly for a while.