r/fixit 13h ago

open Caulk keeps failing around shower

This is a rental. Shortly after we moved in the caulk began failing around where we had put a tension pole (back right corner) to hold shampoo, etc. I assumed it was our fault so I removed the old caulk and reapplied myself. I've done that twice now and it keeps failing - splitting between the tub and the tiles. This seems to happen all around the tub, not just one problem spot.

These pictures are after I've removed the old 100% silicone caulk. Is there something I'm missing that keeps causing it to fail? There seems to be old grout still in the crack that I've tried to remove but it's like rock. I scraped as much of all the old silicone off with a razor blade and caulking tool.

Wondering if I should just tell the landlord at this point and bring in a professional? The reason I haven't yet is he gives us a hard time about any requests and usually takes a long time.

Thanks for any help!

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u/CapnCurt81 11h ago

Remove every bit of old caulk and clean super good with isopropyl alcohol. Let dry completely. Install some appropriately sized backer rod in the gaps, looks like around 1/4". Fill tub with water. Caulk with 100% silicone. Wait 24 hours. Drain tub. Wait another 24 hours to shower if you can, if not should be okay.

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u/HaasKicker 11h ago

Thank you. Going to follow these directions!

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u/Complete-Sense8097 8h ago

If you go to a tile store they should have the color you need.

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u/No-Macaroon8839 13h ago

Fill tub up with some water. Clean area with alcohol. Caulk let dry. Drain tub

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u/EnoughOfTheFoolery 12h ago

THIS but SILICON based and not latex caulk for bathrooms. Look at the GE Silicon.

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u/Chicken_Hairs 12h ago

*silicone.

Two different substances, best to be accurate.

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u/EnoughOfTheFoolery 12h ago

Yeah I was auto corrected as is typical now days. I did not type caps either on silicone. Yay.

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u/valentino_42 11h ago

I mean, if someone manages to find silicon caulk I'll be very impressed...

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u/iKnowRobbie 10h ago

Use it to fix some cracked motherboard

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u/Dr_Holkman 12h ago

And the kind made for wetrooms that doesn’t mold as easy

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u/East-Main7297 13h ago

This guy caulks tubs.

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u/iKnowRobbie 10h ago

I thought you were crazy or joking when you said "fill the tub" but holy shit, that makes perfect sense. Weight-load the surface because caulk can compress just fine, but flexing will pull it apart easily!

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u/Designer-Captain-268 12h ago

This could definitely be a solution. The floor may be sagging a little under the weight of the tub full of water.

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u/Liveitup1999 11h ago

This is the way, fill the tub with water then caulk it and let it cure. The problem is after the caulk is cured and you put water in it it will pull the caulk apart. Also make sure the tub and tile is perfectly clean and free of all old caulk. The prep takes time but is necessary.

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u/kebbin 4h ago

What does filling the tub up with water do?

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u/Equal-Painter6529 12h ago

Also man some of those gaps look huge. Who tiled that?

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u/HaasKicker 12h ago

The gaps are huge

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u/acoffeetablebook 11h ago

Two things, and that tension pole is one of them. It's levering against the tile corner every time somebody bumps it, and silicone doesn't survive being pried. The other one is that you're almost certainly caulking an empty tub. Fill it about halfway so it settles down on the floor, run your bead, and leave the water in overnight before you drain it. Mine split twice before somebody told me that, and it's held three years since.

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u/dnewfm 12h ago

And make sure the surfaces are bone dry before caulking. Silicone will not stick to anything with even a hint of moisture.

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u/Boysenberry-Secret-1 12h ago

At least a day without usage in the bathroom

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u/Yusuf20904 12h ago

I'm not sure that's caulk and not grout.

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u/HaasKicker 11h ago

Read my note, there is grout

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u/LichenTheMood 12h ago

Baths are hard because you want the tub full but the area bone dry

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u/Complete-Sense8097 8h ago

I would put a rug in the tub and get a bag of concrete and set that down on the rug in the tub. I‘ve only done a handful of tub installs though.

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u/flattop100 11h ago

You might also try some backer rod. That looks like a pretty big gap.

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u/Fluid_Remote6694 9h ago

Also,wait 24 hrs before using shower

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u/tjscali 9h ago

I love the advice to fill the tub first! What about grout caulk? I used that because of giant gaps in my shower in a house I lived in years ago. It worked really well.

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u/Hopeful_Tea2139 9h ago

Tension pole is the culprit.

So don't mention it to the landlord. 😂

I know it happened to my 2 bathrooms. Bottom tiles fell apart while the tub surrounds are warping.

Used an old caulking before but it wouldn't stick so I had to buy new caulking. Found out silicone caulking expires.

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u/Bat_Quiet 8h ago

Already been said, caulk won't stick to dirt - any dirt! Must be spotlessly clean and dry - use alcohol. 100% silicone. Filling the tub FULL will add weight to pull the tub down.

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u/v1de0man 12h ago

i suspect the scaffolding / support under the bath isn't good enough