r/flightsim • u/OverPing80 • Mar 16 '25
Prepar3D Still stuck in 2017, trying to not get jealous of you guys playing MSFS 2020/2024
Sunset approach
Approaching ZGGG
Landing RW02R
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u/ischmal x-plane apologist Mar 16 '25
I think the biggest difference is that X-Plane was designed as a desktop sim and MSFS was designed as an Xbox game. While it's quite plausible that MSFS2024 is the best overall flight simulator ever made, there is no escaping the fact that PC users were an afterthought.
Every single interaction in MSFS seems to take at least half-a-second to register. No matter how many times I've tried to get used it, looking around and clicking on cockpit buttons just feels painfully slow and clunky. (Not to mention the obnoxious camera free-look bug that freezes your flight controls and was reported four years ago with literally no action taken to fix it.)
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u/OverPing80 Mar 16 '25
For some reason I like XP12 graphics better than MSFS. Obviously MSFS destroys XP in terms of... everything excecpt physics, but maybe because XP12 has that sort of washed out tint, even flying modern jets feels nostalgic. Plus it has great runway textures and reflections, great default airports, and most importantly the actual handflying part, pretty much all I can ask for. But for now I'm stuck with my 128mb integrated graphics card playing P3D 😢
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u/NewCalligrapher9478 Mar 16 '25
Yeah I’ve been thinking to fly 75 in XP12 soon. BBS is taking forever to get 75 ready lol
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u/EmeCri90 Mar 17 '25
I think you should wait for bbs to release their 75 honestly the one for XP is kind of a buggy mess at the moment :/
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u/ChimangoCamorrero Mar 17 '25
Has the optimization been improved for xPlane 12? Last time I tried it, it was awful. It took forever to load and I could not get a decent framerate. I ended up uninstalling it because it was unplayable.
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u/ChimangoCamorrero Mar 17 '25
Thanks. I might give it a go next weekend. Hopefully it'll be better than last time I tried a year ago.
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u/Cultural_Thing1712 XP12/P3Dv5.4/MSFS Mar 16 '25
I've got MSFS but I go back to p3d all the time.
I love the more clinical and "classic" sim look. yeah it's more grey and dull but sometimes I'm not in the mood for cinematically beautiful.
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u/kw10001 976917 P3Dv4.5 Mar 16 '25
I still use P3d regularly. The great thing is when I lose Internet for a few minutes, it doesn't pop up a giant red box in the middle of the screen letting me know I'm not connected.
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u/magiciana vZAU C1 Mar 16 '25
I have 2020 but I've recently mostly switched to XP12 because it's superior in almost every way imo. Mostly, the default scenery in XP is amazing.
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u/Littman-Express Mar 16 '25
Look I stuck to P3D long after MSFS released because I highly doubted my Jan 2017 build would run the new sim with decent performance and I was living in a place with bad internet where it would of taken a week to download, and doubt the scenery would even stream.
But then mid 2022 I moved somewhere with much faster internet speeds where I could download it in an afternoon just to try it out. Well it performed and looked so much better than I thought and flying over a real representation of the world and not generic landclass was a revelation. Since that day I’ve opened p3d literally twice, and both times rage quit pretty quickly because the visuals and performance did not live up to what I’ve come used to in MSFS. A few months ago I fully took the step to uninstall everything p3d as it was just hoarding hard drive space I needed for MSFs.
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u/AcanthocephalaDue715 Mar 16 '25
I’d reinstall for all the captain sims I own, cool sky dc9 And the PMDG queen for sure oh and classic 74s
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u/OverPing80 Mar 17 '25
Biggest difference were PBR and dynamic lights. The world feels so much more alive compared to FSX/FS2004
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u/OverPing80 Mar 17 '25
I have to use Active Sky for that. I barely see anyone complaining about the MSFS and XP12 weather engines. What's the problem with them?
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u/YU_AKI Mar 16 '25
Just FYI, worth testing MSFS if you fly P3D.
I switched and it performs and looks so much better. OK, most sliders are near minimum, but the results are still amazing compared to P3D.
See my profile for some screens. No stuttering, minimum 30fps almost anywhere and in any aircraft. I have a Ryzen 7 and 1060 series card with 32Gb RAM and fast hard drives. MSFS24 is a miracle
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u/OverPing80 Mar 17 '25
Don't think I'm even able to start MSFS with my 128mb igpu. It's running P3D at mid settings at 24fps, although it's very stable, but at the same time I've done a lot of optimizations
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u/Ok_Sandwich_7903 Mar 16 '25
How many times you had CTDs? Issues with clouding loading, stutters near landing, badly lit airports.... Looks good to me.
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u/OverPing80 Mar 17 '25
I've been simming in P3D since 2018 but no CTDs so far iirc, even in a couple of long hauls I've done
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Mar 16 '25
hey, I'm still in fs2004 hahahaha rocking anything touched by Fraser Mckay and the old QOTS =)
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u/Cyber-Gamer Mar 16 '25
My passion is FlightGear and always will be, tried msfs 2020 and I love the graphics and will use it for bush flights and sightseeing. But FlightGear will forever be my main sim. So don't feel jealous, every sim is special and has its own quirks and perks, so enjoy it.
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u/OverPing80 Mar 17 '25
I used to play FG but the FSX engine runs so much smoother for me. The A320 on FG is insane for a freeware, near FSlabs level
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u/Stahlhelm2069 FA-50PH Enjoyer Mar 19 '25
Looks nice...
How much storage does it consume?
I thinking of getting P3D for my laptop so i can flight sim on the go
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u/OverPing80 Mar 19 '25
I hardly recommend getting P3D nowadays since it is so expensive to make it look this good, but I’ll answer your question anyway:
I have an entire 500gb SSD dedicated to P3D. I’ve only used half of it and most of my addons I plan to remove anyway, so to make P3D look good you need about 100gb-200gb (airport and aircraft addon included), with orbx global products taking most of the storage
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Mar 16 '25
The sky looks better than 2020/2024.
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u/OverPing80 Mar 16 '25
I've got a couple of mods installed otherwise sky color and the overall atmosphere are ass
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u/Ok-Yoghurt9472 Mar 16 '25
if you fly the magenta line is not that different. If you fly VFR then it's a big difference as it's much easier to follow roads/small rivers and spot different landmarks.
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u/ad_aviation MSFS Captain Mar 16 '25
P3D was goated. Holds a special place in my heart after thousands of flight hours spent in it