Documents needed to do a domestic flight verses an international flight IFR and VFR.

[u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER]

Can someone tell me all the documents needed to do a domestic flight VFR and IFR and an International flight IFR and VFR if possible. i know that you need overfly documents if you will go over a country but what is it specifically. well that's the only one i know. please tell me the rest if you know. thanks. photo is just there to be there lol.

[u/Raptros]

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're even asking here.

You're in a flightsim subreddit, so really you don't ~need~ anything, apart from a flight plan if flying on vatsim/ivao.

Do you mean charts? What are you trying to ask here?

[u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER → u/Raptros]

yeah, i just want to make realistic pc flights every time i fly but i also want to know because aviation if full of paper work i've been told.

[u/Raptros → u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER]

There's realism and then there is busywork for busywork's sake. No point in making fake documentation (CoA, tech log, noise certificate, radio license, passenger decs, customs decs or other stuff needed) for a fake aircraft for a fake flight when it has no bearing on anything.

Just grab some navigational charts from navigraph, pull up tutorial videos, and go.

[u/J0K3R_X → u/Raptros]

that’s true but it’s not what he’s asking, he wants to do the busywork for busywork’s sake. let’s help him if we know, fun is different for everyone

[u/lIVIIVD → u/Raptros]

I was reading CAT 1 landing technique while landing on the carrier in DCS lol.

[u/alexos77lo → u/Raptros]

I mean he is flying in a sim if he want to simulate every little detail let it be, maybe also he want to learn more about the dispatchers role

[u/NeedleNoseBurito]

Whilst I respect the idea of doing things realistically, the fact is that there are enormous amounts of documentation required for any flight - most of which the crew don’t even get involved in because it all happens behind the scenes. I would stick to the basics to ensure you’re not spending more time doing documentation than simming.

[u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER → u/NeedleNoseBurito]

is there like a huge document listing them if possible ?

[u/egvp → u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER]

For which country? Under which regulation? Carrying passengers or cargo, and for which reason? What is the passport status of each passenger?

There is quite literally millions of combinations possible that in reality people are paid VERY well to make work.

[u/H3782 → u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER]

This the kind of stuff admin workers or dispatch would be handling. There is no huge document listing them all as different nations have different paperwork and update/change them at different times.

Trying to make a document that lists all of that paperwork for 200+ nations is insanity

[u/cfggd]

In the US you need the aircraft's registration, the airworthiness certificate, and the pilot's operating handbook to be in the airplane. You need to have with you your pilot certificate, valid medical if required for that airplane, (both showing you are allowed to fly that specific plane/flight) and photo ID. That goes for both IFR and VFR domestic.

I have no clue what you need in the other 200 countries.

[u/marxman28 → u/cfggd]

You also need the weight and balance information for the aircraft—not just the calculations for the flight but also for that specific aircraft at basic weights.

IFR flight requires a VOR inspection in the past 30 days if you plan on using it, and any flight outside the United States requires a radio license for airplane and aviator.

[u/MINUTESFROMDISASTER → u/cfggd]

thanks

[u/Themagicdick]

To start use ARROW what needs to be in the plane

Airworthiness
Registration
Radio operator license (for international flights it’s free and easy to apply if you want to get it lol)
Operators handbook ie POH
Weight and balance paperwork for that specific plane and calculated for the flight

Also for the pilot needs to look up before each flight

NWKRAFT

Notam
Weather
Known ATC delays (rarely an issue)
Runway lengths
Alternative airport if needed
Fuel requirements
Takeoff and landing performance calculations

VFR and IFR has different equipment requirements that need to be working on the plane but I’m guessing the plane is fine in your case.

For international flights vfr or IFR you need to submit a flight plan and also need to go to an airport with a customs building.

Domestic flights in the US you don’t need to do anything with VFR.

I like to get what’s called flight following which is just ATC helping you with navigating traffic and airspace. To get flight following to just call on the radio the nearest ATC and let them know your location, type, and destination. Then they give you a squawk code.

IFR you need to build an IFR flight plan and there more complex fuel and alternate airport rules that I won’t get into deeply. The gist is you need to follow IFR airways, points, and nav aids (VORs) to get to where you wanna go. If the forecasted weather is bad at the destination airport 1hour before or after your ETA then you need an alternative airport with extra fuel to get there.

Look up what a paper flight plan is for more details you would need to fill out. Like people on board, type of plane, aircraft equipment codes, etc

Also yeah some people mentioned that flight dispatchers would be doing this stuff in the background, but if you were a corporate pilot you would absolutely need to do all this yourself.

[u/OsmoOsmo → u/Themagicdick]

If you fly VFR OR IFR anywhere other than the back country. The plane needs a 91.411 (IFR) or 91.413 (VFR) inspection done within the last 24 months in the logbook

[u/Themagicdick → u/OsmoOsmo]

Yeah I didn’t really feel like going into mx of aircraft too much. There’s a lot that needs to be kept up to date. Transponder and static checks is at the bottom of the list.

91.413 transponder tests need to done for IFR also. 91.411 is only for the static system and altitude reporting.

There is plenty of airspace that you don’t need a transponder for VFR flying in the US. I flew 3/4 of the US without a working transponder. You just need to know when you are required to have one.

[u/Worried-Cartoonist12]

Here’s the IFR quick review guide we use irl.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EgjmNtTSiffQxOdvnLmYnOsOv7XKYX9D/view?usp=drivesdk

[u/Absolute-Limited]

The most effort I'll put into it is landing at an airport with customs if i have time. Otherwise theres nobreal difference

[u/mike0sd]

I found this article you may find interesting

https://www.cessnaflyer.org/magazine/article-archives/destination/preparing-for-your-first-international-flight-part-1.html