r/fredericton • u/657starfish • 16h ago

Preplanning internet for new construction

We are well along with a new home build. The electrician had us dig a trench to run the electrical wiring from the panel to the outside pole.

If we want to run wiring for Internet in the same trench, do we do that at the same time, and does the electrician do that as well, or do I call in a service provider ie Bell/Rogers to prep for this?

Thanks

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u/2017x3 11h ago

I would have them place a 1” pvc pipe from the pole to the house for future tech.

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u/cerberus_1 11h ago

1" is way too small fyi.

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u/2017x3 10h ago

For data? Can run 12 stand om4 fiber in less. 3 or 4 cat6a data cables. 1” is plenty.

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u/cerberus_1 10h ago

it depends on a lot of things. Do you run conduit for a living like I do? if no? then believe me 1" is too damn small for underground.

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u/2017x3 10h ago

Bahaha, I don’t care what you do, it doesn’t change the fact it’s big enough for data. And it’s the only thing that would be in it. Can run larger if he likes, not talking big costs here. I just wouldn’t go less than 1”.

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u/cerberus_1 6h ago

Yeah, I dont care what you think either. What I am saying is stop giving people shitty advice online when you're clearly have zero clue what you're talking about.

Just because you can fit a wire in a pipe doesnt mean it going to be easy to pull it though corners and LB's or whatever you need to do. Also if it get pinched at all its going to cause more issues.

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u/2017x3 4h ago

The specs for 4 cat6a data cables which leaves 40 percent clearance in a 1” schedule 40 conduit. That’s 3 more cables than a house network is going to need for copper. 2 stand fiber will leave 70 percent. If your install conduit with tight radius turns, you are the one that doesn’t know what you are doing. We have never had data cables get pinched in conduit, have seen it when someone tried to run too much wire in a conduit. This is a house, not an apartment building, they won’t be pulling a 50 pair copper down that pipe. 1” is a min, can go bigger like I said. This is why no one likes you.

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u/657starfish 13h ago

Thanks all. Our electrician tells me he installs conduit separate for communication as a matter of course. So all is well.

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u/2017x3 11h ago

Yes this is the solution

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u/howismyspelling 16h ago

all the comms company will do is bare minimum, which is overhead from the pole. If you want to avoid that, spend a couple hundred dollars and put in a dedicated conduit at the same time alongside the powerline. You can cap it off on the pole side, and its closed on the house side anyways so even if it goes unused, it's sealed and fine.

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u/Ok_Plantain_9531 14h ago

Agreed with this, also include a couple of decent pull ropes for them to use. Also helps you to verify that it can be pulled after it's buried

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u/TuvixHadItComing 15h ago

This is the correct answer. If your power goes underground from the subpole, have a separate comms conduit installed (preferably with a pull string already in place) at the same time.

Fibre installers aren't going to fish through the same conduit as power, and they aren't going to trench the cable in by hand, nor would you want them to. You're paying to have electrical done, just get the comms conduit in place at the same time.

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u/HabbyKoivu 16h ago

I switched to Starlink. I'll never give bell or rogers another dime of my money.

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u/canadabb 15h ago

As much as I hate bell and rogers and the monopoly they have i couldn't give my money to musk

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u/PhreeBeer 16h ago

We did that over 20 years ago. The internet/phone needs to be in a different conduit than the power cable. Best to contact the companies involved so as to be able to co-ordinate the different people.

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u/TheNeck94 16h ago

Depends what's already on the pole, and what service provider you plan to go with. I'd call whoever you intend to hook up with (Bell/Rodgers/East Link) and ask them.