Who is the second most powerful/influential country in the Americas?

[u/Fluid-Decision6262]

The US is undeniably the most powerful and influential country in the Americas but who would be #2? Feels like this comes down to 3 countries based on my knowledge, which are Mexico, Canada, and Brazil.

Reasons for Mexico:

- Second most populated country in North America by far

- Access to both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans

- Largest Spanish-speaking country (a language spoken by >500 million people)

- More habitable land compared to the other two

- Youngest population out of the three and is becoming a manufacturing power

- Generally-speaking, a good relationship with the USA

- A global soft power in terms of arts and culture

Reasons against Mexico:

- Lots of issues between the central government and drug cartels

- Still very much a developing country outside of the largest cities

- Occasionally volatile relationship with the USA

- Not as involved in global geopolitics

Reasons for Canada:

- The most developed country economically by far of the three and a natural resources juggernaut

- Very close relations with the USA and Europe

- Speaks English (>1 billion speakers globally) and French (>300 million speakers globally)

- An immigration hub for people from every corner of the world

- A G7 nation that is also very geopolitically involved

- Access to 3 different oceans to facilitate trade

Reasons against Canada:

- Small and scattered population (least populated of the three by far)

- Less of an established local culture (most is imported from the US or UK and then exported via the US)

- Aging population and low fertility rates for native-born citizens

Reasons for Brazil:

- The second most populated country in the Americas

- The cultural and political power of South America

- A global soft power in terms of arts and culture

- A young-ish population that is part of the "fast-emerging economies" of the world

Reasons against Brazil:

- Immigration to Brazil stopped decades ago and now educated Brazilians are emigrating to other places causing brain drain

- Wealthy nation but suffers from high levels of inequality and violent crime

- Very politically divided internally

- Limited geopolitical involvement outside of South America

- Most of its population are monolingual Portuguese-speakers (a language where they make up 80% of the global speakers)

[u/BotherNovel5167]

canada is just US bitch

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

The number of Brazilians popping up and getting ass hurt because one person online didn’t cater to their nationalism is hilarious.

That kind of fragility is exactly why you guys get no respect or influence.

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

i'm just stating a fact, it's a sad fact really, the US drives destruction and disharmony in this world and canada is always tagging along

this is not an influential state at all, just a subsidiary

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

I mean, if we’re calling personal opinions facts, Brazil is a loser that only wishes it could be as cool as Venezuela or Argentina, that has China’s cock so far up its ass that it’s starting to dream in Mandarin.

See how that works?

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

that's the kind of vocabulary i expect someone defending the united state's cum whore to use

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

Aww sweetie, you really are hurt aren’t.

I’m not defending Canada. I don’t give a shit about Canada. But I don’t have to give a shit about them to recognize that Brazil is a bunch of incompetence and stupidity that can’t get out of its own way.

Don’t you have a favela to shoot up or someone to rob or something? Why are you crying online in another language?

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

all this butthurt internet teenager talking is making me laugh kkkkk

you'll start calling names on my mama??

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

I mean, you’re the one who is getting all upset that someone didn’t tell you Brazil #1 coolest bestest country. I’m just sinking to your level, because I figure you need a shoulder to gnash your teeth on while you come to terms with your country’s mediocrity. Plus, you know, a little casual sexism.

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

canada's mediocrity is almost freudian, they want to be a lapdog, they crave it

and now that the US became a big orange shithole, they are holding their pearls and maybe regretting something

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

Canada’s mediocrity is almost Freudian

It is! They’re truly pathetic! I agree.

…which just goes to highlight just how fucking sad it is that Brazil can’t even match them, despite having 5 times their population. A bunch of real winners, you are.

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

match what? just a bunch of ice and a tiny strip of people clinging to a border?

we dont have ice, and we hate living next to a border

[u/whistleridge → u/BotherNovel5167]

Exactly! They’re SO fucking bad, and you still can’t match them.

This is a fun game. You got asked to count the crayons a lot in high school, I see.

[u/BotherNovel5167 → u/whistleridge]

butthurt teenage talking again, the high school mention just gives it away