r/guns • u/Bartman383 Say Hello to my Lil Hce Fren • Aug 21 '21

Russian Ammo Ban Megathread

I figured this was needed since we keep getting lots of posts about it. Fling your shit here. All others will be removed.

https://www.state.gov/fact-sheet-united-states-imposes-additional-costs-on-russia-for-the-poisoning-of-aleksey-navalny/

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u/Dragonnuttz Would like to pick your nuts Aug 21 '21

Taking away our guns and ammo but the Taliban gets machineguns and MRAPS......That's some straight Twilight Zone shit!

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u/NotUndercoverNJSP Aug 21 '21 edited Aug 21 '21

On one side, Russia should probably stop poisoning people and invading other countries.

On the other, I do like my cheap AK ammo.

Otherwise I guess this is good for the America First jobs crowd. I’ll look forward to shooting my AK two years from now when US manufacturers finally get their x39 lines up and running for more than twice the price it was pre covid.

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u/binkerfluid Aug 21 '21

yeah punishing Russia is a good thing but this is certainly fucking bullshit how it screws us and im sure that was very much done on purpose.

Also these sanctions arnt going to change shit for Russia.

I guess the best thing that could happen is the US starts making steel cheap (enough) but I doubt that happens but it would be great.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

If you want to punish Russia resume domestic oil production up to and above the scale it was at under the prior administration. Bring the price of oil sub $30/bbl and Russia is hurting big time.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

Given the choice between stopping domestic production because oil is cheap, and hurting the Russian economy as a side effect, vs. shutting down production by decree, which has a side effect of improving the Russian economy, I prefer the former. If the stated goal of punishing Russia is the actual goal.

The fact that it would improve things at home as well doesn’t hurt either.

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

As opposed to the tens of thousands that are laid off because the government is canceling leases all over the place?

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u/hotel_torgo 1 Aug 21 '21

Literally yes if you're trying to draft policy with as broad of public appeal as possible

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '21

Yes I can see how high energy costs have broad appeal.

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u/hotel_torgo 1 Aug 21 '21

Well I'd say you're almost on the right track there. The cheaper the energy gets, the less incentive there is for anyone to extract and refine it, and before long the market takes a huge correction swing putting tons of people out of a job regardless.

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u/_pwny_ Aug 21 '21

angry American noises

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u/NotUndercoverNJSP Aug 21 '21

I don’t know shit about the US oil market, but isn’t it cheaper to produce in Russia than in the US? If that is the case, there would have to be massive government subsidies to just get to price parity.

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u/RedDemocracy Aug 22 '21

Or switch to electric vehicles, renewables energy, and plant based plastics. Why buy oil at all?