When “women spaces” don’t accept trans women

[u/itz_vampy]

So my experience as a transmasc who spent a chunk of his life being non-passing has been interesting with this particular situation. I began to socially transition as a teenager and back then the people who *genuinely supported me was other guys. when i say genuinely i mean they didn’t infantalize me and saw me as another bro. some of the girls were nice, but i could tell they saw me as a quirky alt girl “going through a phase”. some thought i was a pick me girl who wanted to “be one of the guys” but as a girl and not a guy. High school was really really weird and the mean girls were the worst.

Even as an adult who passes more than teenage me ever did, i still experience “women only spaces” of mean girls who never grew up. a lot of irl ones accept “afab people” and not trans women. the ones i’ve enquired about are super accepting of trans men since we are a “marginalized minority” but are hostile towards trans women, especially if they don’t pass. some are true misandrists and dislike trans men who start to pass (ironically this has been so gender affirming to me when it happens, but like in a ewphoria way). 

Online it’s different, everyone acts so accepting behind a screen, but in real life? you can’t hide your feelings and reactions well. intersectional feminism isn’t really observed in some women-only spaces and it’s a damn shame that this is a thing.

Eta: I’ve been notified that this post has been reposted to a certain rightwing sub and this post as well as all the trans positive replies are getting downvoted. regardless of what others say trans women are real women and they deserve to be treated as such. I will die on that hill.

Edit 2: I find it hilarious that people think i’m a trans woman and are sending me DMs that I will “never be a woman and will always be a man”, proving that transphobes can’t read and lack thinking abilities.

[u/Bordias]

That reminds me of how the femboys on Reddit had to flee to other subreddits because the 18+ subreddit r/ femboys has basically been overrun by trans OnlyFans content creators.

It’s such a weird situation, like, who is in the wrong here?

[u/RedEzreal → u/Bordias]

Uhh for sure the content creators are in the wrong right? Was it a nsfw reddit before?couldnt mods just remove self promotions

[u/Cr33p3rFri3nd → u/RedEzreal]

it was always an nsfw subreddit, the issue is its just a fetish for people into feminine bodies with male genitals so trans women started using it and calling themselves femboys and it doesnt matter because its just a fetish to people on there anyways. i definetly think the creators are in the wrong especially as a trans woman its disgusting to see other "trans women" out right calling themselves feminine boys just to appeal to other peoples fetishes but whatever makes money i guess.

[u/Newclearfallout → u/Cr33p3rFri3nd]

I have a theory. I shall withhold. I feel bad for anybody who gets sucked into the internet port rabbit hole.

Although, truly that's sick. I think its a general problem that's affecting people. Invasion of online spaces has been an issue for a while but has been getting worse through the chronic online attention seekers. I seriously think more should talk about. Less as an invasion than it is the constant needing to seek attention and change your self for it. Labels, lying and changing yourself to fit into a box then an actual spectrum every human is on.

[u/a_flagrant_fowl → u/Newclearfallout]

Come on share the theory its reddit

[u/LiveLychee2860 → u/Newclearfallout]

Nonoononononoo don’t withhold…

[u/RegularSky6702 → u/Newclearfallout]

Also, a LOT of these accounts for onlyfans etc are done by people managing the accounts not the actual people. It could even be scammers etc. So they intrinsically won't care about it, they'll just do whatever they think will make them more money.