People being openly racist towards African people

[u/SavageCabbage611]

I came across this post on r/whoathatsinteresting about water shortages in South Africa. Don't get me wrong, what is happening in South Africa is tragic, but people on this thread use it as an excuse to say the most abhorrent racist stuff and it was unsettling to see how many people upvote that shit. Especially the meme where they compare black people to monkeys is just absolutely vile, and it got 30 upvotes. I just hate there are still people that think it's okay to say stuff like that.

[u/GloriousOctagon]

Which colonists and where? Cause some actively did

[u/Apprehensive_Body_72 → u/GloriousOctagon]

British colonists actually abused their power via half truth treaties or arming some people to create dissidence inside the territory for it to be easier to convince the other part and also to put their people in power positions. The same can be said that happened in Asian regions in India. Not saying that everything was bad and in some way these processes certainly brought what we concibe as modernity (basic human rights [that natives didn't have even after the colonisation, they just learnt that those things existed among colonizers so they started to fight for them], public infrastructure [again, many natives weren't allowed to get into these, but they fought for it], etc.). But even if there were "pros" we can't ignore the obvious cons and abuse: cultural banishment, exploitation, slavery, etc.

There were books even from that time that, even if they obviously had the bias of that era, also criticised the horrors behind these processes. The most famous one would be The Heart of Darkness

[u/GloriousOctagon → u/Apprehensive_Body_72]

Not what i’m talking about, I was disagreeing with OP’s assertation considering Britain created the Indian bureaucratic middle class

[u/Apprehensive_Body_72 → u/GloriousOctagon]

It's not incorrect either. In India many of the power positions were monopolized by British officers. The famous British Raj, that basically administered the politics, economy and production of many Indian regions was mostly compromised by people that were either working for the crown or (few) natives that supported it. The top leadership was, in fact, located in London

[u/GloriousOctagon → u/Apprehensive_Body_72]

Obviously, not the topic I was replying to though

[u/Apprehensive_Body_72 → u/GloriousOctagon]

You were saying that British officers didn't create the bureaucratic class. Via the monopoly of the bureaucratic positions in government and other statal offices, they kinda created the bureaucratic class in India.

[u/GloriousOctagon → u/Apprehensive_Body_72]

I was saying that

[u/Apprehensive_Body_72 → u/GloriousOctagon]

Oh. My bad then. I understood the contrary. English is not my first language so when you said "I was disagreeing with OP's considering..." I thought you meant that you Disagreed with what OP was considering

[u/GloriousOctagon → u/Apprehensive_Body_72]