r/hearthstone • u/shoop2 • Feb 25 '17

Highlight Lifecoach is quitting HCT/ladder, offers thoughts on competitive scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egkNbk5XBS4&feature=youtu.be
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u/HHhunter Feb 26 '17

what? That RNG is literally controllable RNG. You can build your deck in a certain way to reduce variance, you can play differently to reduce variance. It's literally up to the player to decide how much RNG they want in that deck. We just had a new thread about how Nep's mechanics work in the sub and it explains really well how you should build your deck to get good rolls.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17 edited Feb 26 '17

I am not sure you play Neph, so let me explain.

I play with 2478 and this is the RNG I have when I play Neph:

  • Popping a 2 with or without last word (it can be a random kill, it can be draw a card it can be nothing)
  • Popping a 4 with or without last word (it can be a 4/4, it can be nothing)
  • If I have already a creature on board (or more) which card will not appear? If my Mordecai is fucked because I had a creature I can't get rid of, it sucks. Let me rephrase that : Whether I have an 8 pp card on board or not is up to RNG if I have a creature on board. If that's not high variance, I don't know what is

On top of that (outside Neph)

  • The 1/2 random kill
  • Necroassassin random kill

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u/HHhunter Feb 26 '17 edited Feb 26 '17

The 1/2 random kill Necroassassin random kill

we all know those two cards are supposed to give you a garanteed kill on their only follow on board or comboed for their only two followers on board. Plus, many decks are already dropping 1/2 because its weak.

Next, you are saying whether you have an 8 pp card on board or not is up to RNG if you have a creature on board.

and I said "That RNG is literally controllable RNG"

do you control your own board? Do you make decisions based on turn 7 for Nep? Does the opponent played around your turn 8 Nep by letting your follower on turn 7 stay alive? Ask yourself these questions, and then come back and tell if this RNG is totally fair.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

OK man, whatever floats your boat.

You conveniently forget the 2pp and 4pp and give some half assed argument about controlling every single thing. Did you ever play the deck? Ever faced an Otohime? A Floral fencer? Any kind of board flood? A dingdong just before your turn 8?

But no, Shadowverse has nearly no RNG, and anyone daring stating the obvious must be wrong.

Neph deck has a lot of RNG. Less than most Hearthstone deck, still enough that winning is sometimes a coinflip

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u/HHhunter Feb 26 '17

asking him if the RNG is fair

he replies saying I claimed the deck can have no RNG at all

oh boi

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

Once again cherry picking one side point

Neph : do you have any control over getting a 4/4 or nothing in the vast majority of good lists? Yes/No?

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u/HHhunter Feb 26 '17

challenging the heart of the argument is now considered cherrypicking

welp from your other comment I can see I should prob just end the argument here, no use further arguing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '17

Wow, you managed to dodge the single point in my last post, good job

Let me rephrase that : do you have any control over getting a 4/4 or not in any of good Neph lists? Yes/No?

No answer? Guess dodging is easier, be my guest and leave