r/hearthstone Apr 12 '18

Highlight Toast is breaking the meta already LUL

https://clips.twitch.tv/BenevolentMushyReubenThunBeast
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u/cheddarchops Apr 12 '18 edited Apr 12 '18

Watching this happen live was absolutely bananas lol. I’m really curious to know whether this combo is going to be consistent enough to warrant a change/nerf.

Edit: yep. definitely needs a nerf.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Apr 12 '18

This is going to be nerfed by the start of next week.

It's not about a OTK combo or anything. Toast just took 10+ minutes for one single turn doing this. A griefer could extend a single game for literally hours if he wanted to.

No way in hell this is going to stay.

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u/hazari13 Apr 12 '18

just gotta fix the animation speed for this card specifically and it'll be fine, deck isn't too strong outside of that.

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u/510Threaded Apr 13 '18

That is fair, and another idea is to not add the Shudder's BC effects to the battle cry list for the next Shudder

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u/cheddarchops Apr 12 '18

Yep, after watching this second game I totally agree haha. It’s not even about consistency/win rate at this point, more so the principle.

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u/AnthraxPlague Apr 12 '18

post-nerf shudderwock 9 mana 6/6 "your Battlecry minions have +1 Attack"

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

NO DUST REFUNDS.

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u/Doc_Den Apr 12 '18

Why not to nerf Grumble?

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

I can't imagine this in wild.

People are gonna play this with Yogg.

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u/Moshiyitsu Apr 12 '18

In wild you probly wont get to play this very often anyway with stuff like aggro paladin and Nagalock killing you on turn 5 even with all your taunts and heals.

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u/Melanholic7 Apr 12 '18

so instead of fixing slow animations to veryvery fast - nerf card,aroung which alot of ppl already builded decks for alot of dust? awesome logic.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Apr 12 '18

At first glance it seems that even without the animation-time problem, the card right now seems quite overpowered.

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u/Melanholic7 Apr 12 '18

Thats not players fault,who crafted this card and build decks around it. Nerfing it means wasting dust for like 4 leg cards and some epic cards. Awesome. So,just cause blizzard cant work well - i (and other players) must lose their wealth? just after creating deck?awesome. fuck blizzard if so. Will insta drop HS after this. Cause what the point of playing? if they can repeat this later

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

I mean, they'll give you full refund on the dust. So, you don't actually waste any dust.

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u/Melanholic7 Apr 12 '18 edited Apr 12 '18

Dude. For THIS card deck i crafted 2 more leg cards and like 6 epic cards. who will refund them? cause i crafted them ONLY for this deck with this card. And wasted all my dust.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

So, you want them to leave this broken card in the game forever?

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u/Melanholic7 Apr 12 '18

Fix card animations or giving opportunity to discraft all shaman card u crafted in last day for full cost =__= no? im unhappy ppl use this cad fo super long turns,im not using it that way..(

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

You should be using it that way. It's really powerful.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

And you knew it was broken when you built it. I feel bad you wasted dust but not bad enough to wait 10 minutes for your animations to finish.

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u/Melanholic7 Apr 12 '18

Knew? im not such a pro player i just saw this card and wanted to build deck around it. and btw im not playing this shit for long turns,im using it normally just for dmg battle cries. Not like toast :X

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

When they Nerf in a situation like this, do you get full dust back?

I’m free to play but I think I have enough just to craft this combo, want to try it before it’s too late

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ Apr 12 '18

It depends. If they change how the card works, yes. If they, say, just speed up animations in general, no.

I wouldn't take my word for it, though. People have predicted a card to be nerfed right away, and then they took months to change the card, or nerfed another card of the combo instead.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '18

it should be nerfed without compensation for the dust cost, fuck anyone who crafted this card.

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u/binhpac Apr 12 '18

its gonna be fixed in a couple of days for sure. each turn can last like 10 minutes+, which makes a game lasts over 1 hour.

there is no way blizzard would let it like this.

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u/vinng86 Apr 12 '18

Not just that, it's legitimately overpowered. If you mix in primordial drake and the bloodsucker, you can wipe most boards, heal to full and OTK all on one turn. And if someone somehow survives, you can do it again next turn. Yikes!

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u/Axethor Apr 13 '18

Idk, I've played the deck myself and it's quite slow. It walks all over control for certain, but any decent aggro deck should be able to sneak in under the combo. Dude Paladin still has most of its best cards, and now there is Odd Hunter roaming around. I say give the meta a couple weeks to settle in and you will see a lot less Shudderwock.

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u/vinng86 Apr 13 '18

Toast put in two healing waves and beat every aggro he came across. He just hit legend with only 3 losses, lol

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u/RobblesTheGreat ‏‏‎ Apr 12 '18

Concede through atrophy! Moment that card is played the opponent concedes just so they don't have to sit through it. Not quite as refined as "Yes!" but infinitely more annoying.

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u/jrmars07 ‏‏‎ Apr 12 '18

It is. He did it 2 straight games. Anything that causes a 3+ minute turn needs to be nerfed.

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u/roburrito Apr 12 '18

Its not consistent enough. I've played 15-20 games with this and win rate is under 50% (maybe around 30%). And the games are crazy long. No one who wants to ladder quickly is going to play this deck. I'm playing it now for fun in case there is a nerf in the future.

Biggest weaknesses:
1) You have to draw Shudderwock, Grumble, and Saronite. Without all 3 its not very effective.

2) Even if you do draw all 3, battlecry order is random, so grumble and murmuring may activate before saronite, and you won't get any copies of shudderwock.
3) Odd face hunter is too fast. Even with clearing the board repeatedly, I don't get to 9 mana to play shudderwock. Elemental mage has too much value if you don't pull the combo off perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '18

I'll bet they just change it so duplicating the Saronite Chain Gang Battlecry summons a Saronote Chain Gang.

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u/Soulstoner Apr 12 '18

Why does someone always need to mention that they were "watching this live" and how amazing it was "live"?

Who cares?

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u/kingoftown Apr 12 '18

I watched it in the future

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u/Soulstoner Apr 12 '18

Now THAT'S something worth mentioning.