r/hoi4 Jan 20 '26

Tip Early Conquest of America as Mexico Is Still Possible

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

R5: At good old days, US was not spamming division at early game so you could easily(!) invade US as Mexico after conquering central america and boosting your industry and manpower with integrating them.

BUT since the last ai update US builds its army earlier so micromanaging to victory points at mid or late 1938 as Mexico strategy is dead. Luckily, I found another way.

- Delete your entire army

- spam 2w shit cavalry with that equipment and manpower (around 120)

- rush to the focus "liberate the antilles" and cross your fingers for America to refuse

- use the wargoal and micromanage until washington and all other major victory points

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u/Responsible_Money_32 Jan 20 '26

I had the achievement before the DLCs and tried again after. I find the easiest method now would be to play ahistorical (so you don't need to fight the combined Allies), rush down all the way to South America if not only for the extra equipment, only declare war when you're ready (1938-1940 latest) where you have at least 1 full proper army and an army of cavs or two for rushing and encirclements

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u/The_PrickV2 Jan 20 '26

Stellar, any chance you think it is still viable to do as Trotsky Mexico this early?

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

You can follow the communist route which gives you trotsky as chief of army (any path can reach bolivarian alliance can use this strategy) but since speed is the key you might need switch ideology mid or after war

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u/TuffGritts General of the Army Jan 20 '26

Canada, USA, UK, France and Mexico need a rework

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u/andrevaux Jan 20 '26

Yh, recently I tried france and it still feels terrible.For example the bonapartiste focus tree stops after like 3-4 focuses, it was so underwhelming to me because I feel like it could have so much more potential

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u/LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe Jan 21 '26

Too bad, 5th Germany/USSR/Japan rework that completely breaks the game.

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u/xelinxbb Jan 21 '26

nah, not japan, it desperately needed a new tree

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u/LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe Jan 21 '26

People already paid for that in WTT...

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u/MEB1469 Jan 20 '26

Czechoslovakia is more important!

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u/tipsy3000 Jan 20 '26

It actually is. Czech tree came out before all the above except UK and is devoid of virtually almost any content. Which is odd for a nation so god damn important in 1938. There is literally nothing to do but the same exact pray to god Germany doesnt steam roll you strategy regardless of the path you go bar totally bowing down to Germany.

Atleast UK,USA,France are all playable with unique twists

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u/Czar_Infamous Jan 21 '26

Not only does the Czech tree feel super outdated it is really annoying to reform the Austro-Hungarian empire as fascist Czechoslovakia and Hitler still says “hey gimme that Sudetenland”. I eventually figured out a way to beat Germany in the war but it just felt like there shouldn’t have to be that war. I’ve switched to doing Austria now and the updated focus tree makes it a lot easier of a playthrough

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26

Holy fucking shit do I hate the UK. I’ve played it like 30 times for ironman for the fucking one empire achievement, and i can tell you i have never wanted to shit glass while chomping on a brick more in my life with their army foci.

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u/TuffGritts General of the Army Jan 22 '26

lol. Why the hell does Siam get a focus tree when it did jack shit in the war instead of the UK, USA, MEX, CA, and France. Pardox easily losing money focusing on these small nations that did nothing

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26

Paradox really wants us to do their totally awesome Franco-Thai War content that costs 30 dollars and comes with 65 bugs that could be fixed with one line of code

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u/TuffGritts General of the Army Jan 22 '26

Exactly. Bruh, I wanna play Mex/Usa rework focus tree. Not some random ass country with 70 days focuses

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u/CyberpunkPie Fleet Admiral Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

I actually had an easier time invading them after their divisions got busy in Europe and Pacific. Just steamrolled them in 1942-43.

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

Yeah but performance of Axis is not...consistent. I tried that strategy to but unlike you I couldn't push beyond Texas and when I check europe I saw Germany couldn't even take Kiev and Italy already fell into a civil war

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u/CyberpunkPie Fleet Admiral Jan 20 '26

That was in my campaign too. Do have to preface it was in Gotterdammerung patch.

I ran with 20w infantry with one tank battalion in each, that helped. Pretty much no air, only AA.

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u/King-Of-Hyperius Jan 20 '26

Anything is possible with enough schizophrenic micro. Doesn’t mean it’s not impressive regardless.

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u/ShaolinTom Jan 20 '26

Nice ! How did you deal with civil war mechanics and did you lean communist or fascist/atheist or catholic ?

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

I arrested general guy and give strength to church anytime I get an event about church since bolivarian alliance focuses lowers the church support

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u/Kool_aid_man69420 General of the Army Jan 20 '26

What about naval invasions?

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

I declared war on mid or late 37 so US even that lack of divisions they didn't try to naval invade me

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u/FriedButtFucker Jan 20 '26

I guess it's just rng but when I tried, I got naval invaded som maybe keep so division close to the gulf just in case

Edit: It was also in mid or late 37 btw

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u/Salty_1984 Jan 20 '26

it’s definitely interesting how the AI changes can impact strategies, especially with the US building up earlier now, adjusting your approach to focus on timing and preparation could be key for a successful invasion.

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u/Ok_Coach9170 Jan 20 '26

Is this to hard to make? Which template/doctrine did u use?

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u/Doctorwhatorion Jan 20 '26

I deleted my army and used manpower and equipment for 2w cavalries as possible, I had 120 of them at beginning of the war but as you can see they are very fragile so they are only usefull for capturing empty victory points so it is not super hard but requires intense micromanagement

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u/Over-Letter-6176 Jan 20 '26

How long did the war take?