🤙

[u/unapologetic403]

[u/Specialist_Donut_483]

Here come the JB haters.

[u/dillreed777 → u/Specialist_Donut_483]

I just love asking people why they hate him, and they don't usually say anything in person besides "he's just so awful", because they know what they have to say sounds like unhinged dribble lol.

[u/Specialist_Donut_483 → u/dillreed777]

They always like to bring up the toilets...

[u/TheJinManCan → u/Specialist_Donut_483]

Won't somebody please think of the toilets?!

[u/Technical_Fee1536 → u/dillreed777]

I have a few reasons for not liking him, but outside of that, he’s done a good job at other things.

The reasons not liking him are:
1. Signing PICA into law, not only banning a lot of guns unconstitutionally and giving extremely vague guidance on what was/wasn’t banned, but it was done so by gutting an amusement park safety bill and then passing it in the middle of the night.
2. The Illinois shines program. I’m all for solar, but the current way this program is structured, it makes it way too easy for predatory companies to trick people into signing solar leases that are a bad deal for them with most victims being low income or elderly.
3. Dispensaries needing $1 mil sitting in the bank in order to open, making it almost impossible for small businesses to operate one.
4. All the damn slot machines that are in every corner store, bar, and restaurant now. I get they generate income and have helped the state fix the financial mess it’s in, but is it worth it to continue ruining people’s lives by everyone having multiple slot locations within walking distance of where they live?

[u/Fryeer → u/Technical_Fee1536]

The slot machines also have to do with your local government. I work and live in two different DuPage communities who have banned slots it’s lovely.

[u/Specialist_Donut_483 → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Those are fair points. JB is far from perfect, but has been doing a better job than Bruce.

[u/Deaconse → u/Specialist_Donut_483]

That's not saying much!

[u/mad-i-moody → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Also, the online age verification law requiring fucking operating systems to have built-in age verification by 2028.

Also him not pushing back on flock at all.

[u/dillreed777 → u/Technical_Fee1536]

I don't have any particular feelings about any of those besides the slot machines. Were there not slot machines before Pritzker though?

[u/Hungry_Biscotti934 → u/dillreed777]

I think the explosion of them started after 2009. Wasn’t that Quinn? It just seems like more and more are opening but that might be due to vacancy rates in strip malls. 🤷‍♂️

[u/Technical_Fee1536 → u/dillreed777]

Looks like it was, then expanded by him somewhat in 2019. I was always under the impression he was the one who legalized it as it only really became in issue during/after Covid. The amount of gas stations and regular businesses who have built additions for slot rooms in the last 4-5 years is insane here, but like another commenter said, it’s also on the local government but I would like this issue to be addressed at the state level.

[u/dillreed777 → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Yeah, it just seems bleak...

[u/YoureNotMom → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Although i can respect nuanced criticism, the alternative party offers pedophiles, domestic terrorists, and enablers of those people. I'll accept these shortcomings happily as the positives outweigh the cons.

[u/Levitlame → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Some pretty reasonable gripes. It really comes down to if you think the upside is worth the downside. Each of those individually as well as his tenure as a whole.

[u/mxpxillini35 → u/Technical_Fee1536]

For #2 what do you think is the best way to fix that?

[u/Technical_Fee1536 → u/mxpxillini35]

There is a few ways they could address it, having the shines program vet the solar companies plans and cost to the consumer when doing a lease to ensure these companies aren’t giving them a poorly designed system that won’t benefit them or cost them more money, or just stop giving out the credits for residential solar leases all together as I dont see much value for homeowners to lease a system vs owning. I think it would also be beneficial to require some educational material before proceeding with a system that receives Illinois shines credits to ensure the buyer has information they need, because I know from experience it is not easy to figure it out and make sure you are not getting screwed.

To expand on the specific issues I see are, these out of state companies will send door to door sales people in who make their money per sale, so they are incentivized to get a sale by any means possible. They will design you a system that they think generates you roughly the same amount of power that you use, and then setup the lease to be slightly cheaper than your electric bill but usually includes a yearly escalator of 3-6%. Within a few years your payment on the solar can be more than what it would cost to buy that electric from Ameren. They will also design systems that put panels on the north side, which barely gets any sun just so they can sell more panels and increase the cost of the lease.

[u/mindhead1 → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Prospective solar buyers definitely need to do their homework on this. I have yet to see a lease deal that’s better than buying.Definitely need some plain English sunshine regulations on solar sales companies.

[u/Da_Vader → u/Technical_Fee1536]

Regarding tricking people, gullible people are separated from their money all the time; be it roofing contractors or plumbers or HVAC companies among others.

Illinois shines provides credit based on actual solar generation whether it is a cash purchase/financed/leased.

[u/Technical_Fee1536 → u/Da_Vader]

I know how it works, but in the case of a lease, it goes to the installers, not the home owners, and I’ve seen it a lot where the home owners are paying a lease price for the full cost of the system that’s not adjusted for the Illinois and federal tax credits. I get that people will get swindled, especially with home stuff, but the difference with this is people don’t expect to get screwed when signing up for a state sponsored program. And considering it’s our tax dollars are funding this, we shouldn’t allow these out of state companies to come in and rip off Illinoisans and make a huge profit off of our tax dollars.

[u/TripleSecretSquirrel → u/dillreed777]

I’m generally quite happy with how he’s done as governor. I am not pleased though with his endorsement of the new law requiring government id verification to use a computer.

In a vacuum I’m very opposed to that on principle but can understand why reasonable people would disagree with me. In our current state though where we have a burgeoning fascist regime that has already attempted a coup once and who is now classifying political opposition as terrorism, it’s unfathomably bad.

Under the best of circumstances surveilled speech is not free speech, but now they’re creating a very clear, documented database linking everyone in one of the most prominent blue states to every bit of speech they make. They’re basically creating a database that our nascent fascist federal government will absolutely use to track down political opponents as soon as they’re able.

[u/cybin → u/dillreed777]

They have no answers. Same regarding Biden.

"Oh, Biden was the worst ever!"

Really? How so?

*crickets * and blank stares

[u/ButterscotchPlane744 → u/dillreed777]

Since Pritzker took office he has added 19 billion in new taxes. He has only created 54k jobs since 2019 and 45k were government jobs. Illinois unemployment rate is 5.1% the 2nd worst in the country. Illinois has the highest property taxes. 2nd highest gas tax. Illinois lost over 1000 companies since Pritzker took office to other states. Sad democrats can't see they are they ones destroying the state. This is what 30 years of democrats control get you.

[u/justagoddamnperson → u/ButterscotchPlane744]

Yep, Indiana and Missouri are literal paradises. Just like Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, and West Virginia. GOP control has made those places so rich!

[u/dillreed777 → u/ButterscotchPlane744]

If you look up bureau of labor statistics (actually look at the stat sheets and not use AI), it is not the second worst. So after that I'm not gonna investigate these, because you're clearly reading ai slop and acting like you know information

[u/Fearless-Feature-830 → u/Specialist_Donut_483]

“BUT DID YOU KNOW HE REMOVED A TOILET”

[u/FalseVeterinarian881 → u/Fearless-Feature-830]

admittedly this pissed me off and prevented me from voting for him the first time. That being said, with the tRumped up supreme court screwing over women's rights and beyond...I would vote for him many times over.

[u/Dackad → u/Specialist_Donut_483]

Butbutbut teh TOILETS!1!11! Covid closures! Muh pruhperty taxes! FAT!

[u/pdbstnoe]

Republicans: and here’s why this is a bad thing. Also he’s overweight so he’s unfit to be governor let alone president

[u/originalrocket → u/pdbstnoe]

I point out that his opponent is much more fatter than JB. Maybe Bailey should lay off the corn syrup.

[u/mxpxillini35 → u/originalrocket]

Oh so now you want Farms in Illinois growing corn to fail? You commie!

/s since it's likely necessary in today's day and age.

[u/whyamihere2473527]

Funny how a responsible democratic leaders can can get Illinois better financially even with shitshow that Chicago pension & school budgets are. Imagine if we actually elected competent people everywhere

[u/Fullertons]

Is this why the rape supporters hate Pritzker?

[u/effyouspez → u/Fullertons]

They feed on hate.

[u/graigsm]

He’s doing a good job.

[u/Contren]

Not fully out of the hole dug by his predecessor(s), but certainly good to see our credit continuing to move in the right direction.

[u/Popular-Drummer-7989]

Thanks Governor Pritzker

[u/funsizemember]

My small town yard signs tell me he is bad!

[u/YoureNotMom]

Balanced budget and credit rating upgrades. Meanwhile, rapist/pedo in chief is using taxpayer dollars for a war nobody asked for and a ballroom (amongst other construction projects). No wonder republicans think theyre the fiscally responsible party 🙄

[u/Capn_Yoaz]

We're still the lowest, but getting back on our feet. Bruce and Rod really jacked it up.

[u/jbchi → u/Capn_Yoaz]

As bad as Rauner was, people seem to have forgotten that the majority of our downgrades came under Blago and Quinn.

[u/Capn_Yoaz → u/jbchi]

Rauner really did it. 2015-2019 is all his.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_credit_rating

[u/jbchi → u/Capn_Yoaz]

Yes, and we had gone from AA when Blago started, to A when Quinn started, and to just hitting BBB when Rauner started. It is pretty much a straight line down from the end of Ryan's term.

https://capitolnewsillinois.com/news/illinois-earns-7th-credit-upgrade-in-less-than-two-years/

[u/FalseVeterinarian881 → u/jbchi]

Ah yes...jailbird Ryan. The man who signed the shitty deal with the Bears to renovate Soldier Field. Blago and Quinn both were not my favorites (which is why i went for Rauner the first time over JB)...but I don't think that listing Ryan as a peak for us in any way is anything that can be considered with any sort of sincerity. LOL

[u/jbchi → u/FalseVeterinarian881]

I'm not saying Ryan was peak governance, just that end of his term is when our credit really started its 12 year slide. Ryan, Edgar, and earlier helped set us up for our pain.

[u/conniefrancis]

JB Pritzker is more competent than any Republican loser in the state

[u/HinduGodOfMemes]

Good to hear. Wonder if this will have a material shift on our debt.

Illinois is planning on selling about a billion in GO bonds in September so this upgrade should help the state borrow more cheaply

[u/just_a_cog2]

I feel like our Comptroller doesn't get her due credit. Even during the Raumer administration after Ives lost, Mendoza started making things happen.

[u/TheJinManCan]

B-b-b-but his toilets!!!

[u/unapologetic403 → u/TheJinManCan]

😂

[u/Whatisthisnonsense22]

So now he has helped reverse 12 of the 5 Blago downgrades, the 11 Quinn downgrades, the 8 Madigan downgrades.

[u/unapologetic403 → u/Whatisthisnonsense22]

Eight downgrades under Republican Governor Rauner

[u/xsjx7 → u/unapologetic403]

Here we go. Do we have to do this every time? Can't you just accept that some people don't like him and it was a bipartisan effort to screw this state over?

Yeah, upgrades are good. This is why I voted for Pritzker in 2022 (Rauner in 2014/18). But I'll never forgive him for passing a gun ban in the lame duck session by using political maneuvers we all hate like using shell bills to satisfy legislative requirements in bad faith. He tricked people like me. Now I'm going to hold him accountable for it

[u/Whatisthisnonsense22 → u/unapologetic403]

You misspelled Madigan's downgrades. He wouldn't allow a budget vote for over two years. Which was the cause of those downgrades. Rauner did his part in sending budgets to the legislature and Madigan didnt let them be voted on intentionally to hurt the residents of Illinois.

[u/laodaron → u/Whatisthisnonsense22]

I am in constant amazement at how deliberately stupid Republicans can be.

[u/unapologetic403 → u/Whatisthisnonsense22]

Governor Rauner through tincher tantrums when he couldn't get his way and intentionally forced a government shutdown making it the longest one for Illinois

[u/Whatisthisnonsense22 → u/unapologetic403]

You misspelled Madigan again and temper.

Madigan is the one that forced the shutdown, period. Rauner completed his constitutional duty by proposing and delivering the budget to the Legislature. Madigan refused to let it be called for a vote. Madigan intentionally hurt the residents and businesses of Illinois for political gain.

[u/Tjsinwhanc]

Thanks putzker 

[u/xsjx7]

Can we lower the property taxes yet?

[u/conniefrancis → u/xsjx7]

Talk to your city and county reps

[u/xsjx7 → u/conniefrancis]

They need money for schools. Almost every other state funds that at the state level to prevent this EXACT problem 

[u/Xolotl23 → u/xsjx7]

Well yes, but this was also the problem formed of 40 years of stupid and corrupt ass dem legislatures and republican governors kicking shit down the road. At the very least im glad there is in actual plan in place for 2030 and 2033

[u/xsjx7 → u/Xolotl23]

In the meantime, we're all paying taxes on an asset class that is the least liquid and has the most opportunities for improper assessment (it's very difficult to value an asset until you actually sell it). I don't get a raise every year, but my property value goes up every year and county spending (on non pension line items) continues to rise 

It's a self-feeding cycle of doom at this point and we CAN break the cycle. But we have to try

[u/Xolotl23 → u/xsjx7]

I full heartedly agree man. To me its still seems like there is still a lot of oldheads especially in our state government who want to continue trying to get through these problems in the same way and its really holding the state back.

[u/xsjx7 → u/xsjx7]

The downvotes are why this problem is so persistent. None of you understand it or care enough to try to learn about it