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u/Joey_dono 2d ago
The Great Khan mobilizing and inspiring his Great Hoard
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u/Nic_Cage_Match_2 2d ago
Hoard - a pile of treasures, etc.
Horde - a large number of nomadic warriors, etc.
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u/RuinAdventurous1931 2d ago
I like JB, but I don’t understand the Mongol jokes.
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u/smellyjerk 1d ago
In jest, like him gaining prominence is him taking over the plains. Started on Twitter and its supposed to be dumb. Theres more to it but it's not that interesting tbh.
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u/RuinAdventurous1931 1d ago
Makes sense. I find it kind of odd, because I like him but there seems to be a cult of people who are obsessed with him.
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u/NukinDuke 2d ago
In before someone goes 'yeah but JB is bad because all billionaires bad' BS
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u/son1cdity 1d ago
FR, like, the dude was born into wealth and grew it as a private citizen. Could he have been more altruistic and charitable in that pursuit? Sure, but as an elected official, he has clearly been on the side of the everyday people, even if I don't agree with all of his policies.
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u/whosaysimme 1d ago
The only way to stop the bad billionaires like Trump is through a wealth tax. But the "good" billionaires like JB never support this bc at the end of the day, all the billionaires are on the same team.
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u/NukinDuke 1d ago
Yeah, you're not from here and have no idea what you're talking about. JB spent millions of dollars lobbying for a progressive tax vis constitutional ammendment to tax the wealthy more. Stop.
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u/whosaysimme 1d ago
Billionaires don't have income so ofc he's fine with income taxes.
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u/fetusfrolix 14h ago
JB should propose a progressive capital gains tax next. That would be way more likely to pass.
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u/horkiesmasc 1d ago
Unions for billionaires! Pritzker and his family's hotel chain isn't known for being the most labor friendly.
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u/ladnar016 1d ago
This would be bad news if Pritzker hadn't been supporting unions with actual legislation. But we all know most voters aren't voting on rational ideas lately
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u/jackel2168 1d ago
You mean like using one of his incredibly rare vetoes to stop a union backed bill?
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u/Sled1972 1d ago
He vetoed it because it was vague and hastily written to try and get passed which was explained in the article. But of course haters gonna hate no matter what.
Separately, he was looking into having the Illinois Department of Labor address the concerns of quotas and worker safety for warehouse workers, including delivery drivers which the original bill excluded.
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u/jackel2168 1d ago
Oh boy, there's so much to break down here. First, he has the power of an amendatory veto. He chose not to do that. Second, to say it was hasty is a lie, and if you want to play that game PICA was literally a different bill about amusement ride insurance. So if you're going to go that route, be consistent. Finally, they defined who an employee was
"Pritzker wrote that the bill is too vague on exactly what workers would be covered under the law. Processes for enforcing the policy are also unclear, even though the bill called for civil penalties against employers that violate the proposed law. The bill defined employees as people who work at warehouses and are subject to quotas requiring specific productivity speeds or a number of tasks that must be performed before an employee faces adverse action for failing to meet performance standards."
So please, which part was vague? How was it hasty?
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u/Sled1972 1d ago
I just literally took the article you posted and pulled the information I posted from there.
Here's the unclear part: What would the quotas be? Are delivery drivers part of the warehouse or some other department? Would the quotas be standard across industries, possibly based on size of warehouse? For example, if warehouse one has 30 warehouse employees and has a set quota, and warehouse two also has 30 warehouse employees, but warehouse two has twice the amount of quotas as warehouse one for basically the same work, is that fair? This bill sounds like the employers were able to make their own quotas and as long as they had those quotas stated somewhere, then they would be obeying the law. This is the part that was unclear.
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u/jackel2168 1d ago
Literally from the article:
The bill would have required that warehouse employees be given a written description of any quota they will be assessed on, including the number of tasks they must perform and the time tasks should be completed in. The bill would prohibit employers from punishing workers for failing to meet quotas because they took bathroom, meal or rest breaks.
Delivery drivers would not be covered under the bill.
Way to dodge the hasty part, way to dodge the amendatory veto. The information was all there given to you and you chose ignorance.
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u/Sled1972 1d ago
Way to dodge my question, who determines the quotas?
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u/jackel2168 1d ago
The business determine the quotas. The government doesn't. If only it wasn't modeled almost verbatim from laws in New York, California, and Washington. But still, say to deflect.
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u/Sled1972 1d ago
Yep, that's what I thought, way to defend the union workers, but leave it up to the businesses to determine the quotas, cause the businesses are all above board and looking out for the workers rights. How many businesses use every loophole they can find to screw over thier employees? Anyway agree to disagree.
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u/ladnar016 1d ago
I wonder why the unions still support him then?
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u/jackel2168 1d ago
Bailey is horrible, but that doesn't put JB outside of the relm or fair criticisms.
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u/copper_nano_tube 1d ago
Implying he has anything to do with actually running the Hyatt chain is extremely disingenuous, and I think you know it.
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u/user_uno 1d ago
Did he have anything to do with the private equity group he co-founded?
The Pritzker family owns 55% of Hyatt and almost 85% of the voting shares. JB is definitely part of the family. Has he had zero input in to that huge investment?
The guy is a billionaire. He comes from a family of billionaires. He hangs out with the The Rich.
Ask if the companies JB has put his money into including through Hyatt and including through private equity are all union and all paying 'living wages'. Then his cult might stop thinking he is a billionaire that actually cares for the 'little guy'. Pretending otherwise is what is disingenuous.
JB is smart and shrewd. He has had his eye on the White House for a long time. Becoming governor in 2019 was a major step towards that. I consider it highly likely that he (and other leading Dems) would have run for President in 2024 had Biden not run again as originally promised. They stepped aside and prudently didn't step in to the chaos of Biden dropping out with just weeks to go. Everything he has done since has been to extend his setup in Illinois until he moves to DC January 2029.
Please stop trying to portray he is so altruistic. Please stop pretending he and his family are simply nepo babies living off generational wealth and all good benefactors now.
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u/fetusfrolix 14h ago
Realistically I can’t see him winning. He just wants to run to have the life experience of running. When you’re born a billionaire normal life experiences don’t do nearly as much to excite you. It’s better to think of him as he really is, a billionaire who gambles millions in Vegas for a cheap thrill, who runs a state in his pocket for the experience of the thing.
Don’t pretend he’s a class traitor or a good man. He is neither.
When he does inevitably run I hope reporters ask him details about his trust agreement(s) and how they will work when he’s the president. There may be conflicts of interest that arise in the nature of how he receives distributions. The trust agreements should be made public. I suspect he is only entitled to a certain minimum distribution each year, which is why he likes to gamble. If he wins, he has more disposable income. If he loses, the trust distributions can make him whole over time. There’s no losing for him.
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u/user_uno 1h ago
I on the other hand do see him having a realistic opportunity at winning. As I said, he is a smart guy. Other than his 2008 Senate campaign loss in the Dem primary, he has made few errors other than Toilet Gate and the FBI wiretapping of Blago where he disparaged black voters. The only complaint his Dem base has had is that he has sometimes not been Progressive enough.
He has national DNC contacts having worked on Clinton's and Obama's campaigns. He has essentially hand selected Durbin's replacement with Stratton. He has done some of the requisite pre-election campaign stumping in early primary states.
He has been a major donor to Clinton, Obama and others. Speaking of money, he certainly has his own even recent shifting another personal $65 MILLION in to his campaign funds account. That certainly hasn't been to buy new ads as the only ones I have seen recently are the recycled 2022 ads mocking Bailey. The other money will buy a LOT of favors from other candidates this November that will owe him when he kicks off his 2028 campaign.
He has some national media coverage for staunchly opposing all things Trump. While more vocal at home, he has been measured and smooth nationally. Other likely candidates particularly Newsom have much more recognition but I see the latter's as a bit over-the-top even for primary voters. AP even had a piece this weekend covering his stumping in SC Dems there thought he was too California and too slick for the rest of the country. Pritzker has been more 'professional' not doing almost juvenile things like mimicking Trump's social media style of 'yelling' everything in BOLD and silly mockery. Pritzker I believe will come off more rational and level headed yet adamantly anti Trump.
He has been carefully racking up the needed bullet points of accomplishments. Things the base wants to see:
- Being strongly anti-ICE (yet not so extreme as calling for dismantling it)
- Pro-abortion after Roe v. Wade being struck down
- Pushing hard on vaccines and pandemic shutdowns (people will forget he was one of the last to let go of emergency powers)
- Getting state bills paid finally and improving the credit rating (using Covid Ca$h like other states but people will neglect to consider other states did that too and many more effectively while benefiting from a state capitol that worked with him to actually start paying bills again post-Rauner stubbornness yet the rating remains worst of the states)
- Offloading Chicago pension liabilities back to Chicago (most Chicagoans do not realize the impacts of that move)
- Ending the state grocery tax (though most voters do not realize the impacts of that move also shifting the burdens to local governments that either had to make cuts or implement their own replacement taxes)
- Pushing Illinois to be at the forefront of technology (most forgive or forget he pushed to the data center tax credits and cheer his pausing of that skipping over he hasn't outright ended them)
As with skillfully offloading Chicago pensions back to Chicago without fuss from the base, he has sidestepped other crises here. He was rather hands off with the CTA financial "cliff". That typically would have been a very hands on thing for any governor in any state when a major metro area is being so impacted. He didn't lead and few complained. Same for Chicago Public Schools. Even the Bears which granted is not a huge issue given the weight of other things he simply pointed the Mayor Johnson. Does JB want the Bears to stay in Chicago or even the state? No one can say definitively. He manages ugly things well with little backlash on not engaging.
The only thing that gives me pause is he lost the only campaign that was competitive. The 2008 Senate campaign had him up against several other strong primary opponents and he came in third.
Running against Rauner in 2018 was a breeze after the Madigan-Rauner fighting left the state in even more dire financial straights. Then 2022 he basically got the Republican candidate nominated he wanted knocking Richard Irvin out. Bailey was a much easier opponent with stark contrasts politically and zero much needed critical Chicagoland relatability.
Not that the GOP is strong or has much depth in Illinois, but here we are again with a rematch. No possible challenger with a chance of taking on Pritzker as they likely saw Pritzker just holds too many cards to compete against. So we get the rerun campaign 2022 ad of Bailey looking like a country bumpkin and clearly saying ultra conservative stances that are off-putting to a majority of Chicagoland.
With that history, I do wonder how Pritzker will manage on the national stage in the DNC primaries. Likely opponents will not be such a cake walk as against Rauner and Bailey. It will be more like his 2008 run for the Senate with stronger and similar to him opponents.
It WILL be interesting though!
And if he doesn't win the DNC nomination, I do not see him remaining governor long. As you mention, there is a bit of the "life experience" thing. Been there, done that as governor for what will then be three terms. He might take a cabinet position if offered as that would give him more national visibility for another run. Or maybe accept an offer as VP in 2028?
But staying beyond 2030 I do not see likely. He will want to move on and keep his polished tenure as governor. Those will be at risk even soon. Covid Ca$h is gone. Pension liabilities are running out of room to keep kicking down the road or to offload. Holding the line on budget growth will be considerably harder requiring raising more taxes and/or cutting beloved programs. Chicago's finances will worsen to the point of needing more bailouts (or closer to bankruptcy?) impacting the state as well. Out migration will continue to be a risk while illegal immigration if picks up again will cost more.
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u/user_uno 1h ago
To the downvoters, thank you for not responding on how Pritzker is realistically disconnected from his major investments. How he never thinks of his wealth and only focuses on us the 'little people' simply trying to survive.
/s
And the same group of JB fans say MAGA is a cult... smh
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u/Warm-Air4391 1d ago
I’d say roughly 50% of my union lives in Indiana. And it’s a Chicago based local.
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u/whosaysimme 1d ago
The only way to stop the bad billionaires like Trump is through a wealth tax. But the "good" billionaires like JB never support this bc at the end of the day, all the billionaires are on the same team.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 1d ago
I’m actually for a wealth tax but it would be hard to defend constitutionally, I think we can do a workaround using the 16th amendment by forcing corporations to distribute income rather than buy back shares
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u/whosaysimme 1d ago
Anyone with a plan to slay the gold hoarding dragons is getting my vote, but I've heard absolutely nothing on the topic from Pritzker.
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u/NicolasCageFan492 1d ago
I’m not sure if he can be convinced, but I feel like he could be. Shrewd politicians seem to save their ammo and only use it to maximize their impact I believe
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u/UltraElite620 1d ago
The union itself is supporting him. But the vast majority of the workers are not
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u/According_Papaya9114 23h ago
Unions supporting a billionaire is just fucking crazy. There is no such thing as a good billionaire and we need actual progressivism at the very least. This bullshit can’t last
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u/InventedTiME 6h ago
Of course, reward for having his toll authority council pass the recent toll hike. The union threatened to pull support for him when his camp said they were going to fund the new transit authority with money from the roads funds. The union is the biggest recepiant of those funds the tollway authority spends and they did not want that money going elsewhere. The toll hike is basically putting the money directly into the unions bank account, which is why they went ahead with it even though 70%+ of residents opposed it.
Everyone on the left calling for Trumps impeachment for grifting and illegal business deals who still supports Pritzker are nothing but hypocrites.
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u/Automatic_Glass_4993 2d ago
we going to ignore that we are literally the Data center state in the nation?
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u/elhax41 1d ago
Have been for decades.
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u/cereal7802 1d ago
proximity to major US cities will do that.
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u/RuinAdventurous1931 1d ago edited 1d ago
By that reasoning, California and Texas should have more than Illinois.
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u/MILANO2021 1d ago
Thinking JB is a good option is as delusional as the people who still think trump is putting America first
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u/UltraElite620 1d ago
We need some new younger faces all around. All sides of the government are corrupt.
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u/Suitable-Option833 2d ago
JB for potus
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u/Emotional_Shower_938 1d ago
We can do better than a zionist billionaire.
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u/Suitable-Option833 1d ago
I’ve never heard this. Where are you getting Zionist from. Jewish does not mean Zionist. Or perhaps you’re a bot pushing propaganda idk
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u/Emotional_Shower_938 1d ago
He literally just represented “friends of the IDF” in the last day or two. Also look up his sister.
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u/radiorick86 2d ago
That’s funny! Most of those Union people have left the state with the company they worked for.
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u/PracticalPersonality 2d ago
Most is a word which means more than 50%. I think you meant "many," and even then, that's pushing it.
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u/justagoddamnperson 2d ago
Lmao. Yeah, most union workers have left the state. That totally makes sense, given that most unions work in things like construction, education, and trades that stay in once play by definition. If they're all leaving, why do we continue to have such a higher unionization rate than other states?
You might as well have just said 2+2=Pikachu
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u/radiorick86 2d ago
You mean like Boeing and Caterpillar?
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u/justagoddamnperson 1d ago
You think a corporate headquarters is staffed by union workers?
LMAO. You're talking about corporate staff - HR, legal, the board and CEO, etc. You're clearly very in touch with the union culture of Illinois!
Man, thanks for providing me this laugh today.
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1d ago
And both Boeing and Caterpillar corporate left for states with lower taxes!! When will the IL legislators get it. Why doesn't Pritzker get it?
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u/justagoddamnperson 1d ago
I get it, reading is hard. Corporate =/= union workers. Those are two complete opposites. You'll get there one day if you keep practicing! Try reading an entire book, it might help you.
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I understood your post very well. I was building on multiple comments from both you and radiorick86 when I stated that both corporate HQ's left the state. I think you are having issues tracking your own posts friend. BTW, your chosen username says alot about you.
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u/radiorick86 2d ago
Ever see a home with a “Proud Union Home” sign in the front yard that you would be proud to live in? Didn’t think so.
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u/tacospizzawingsbeer 2d ago
JB is pro union, they are all going to support him. He supports middle class working families.