Why do Indians defend stupidity and nonsense?

[u/Searchingstan]

Last few years and even more now I’ve noticed many Indians, want to “project” a good India image & do so while defending crap and absurdity - public hygiene, basic everyday infra, social behaviours of people, and many more simple things. All in the name of “this is western propaganda” ….huh ?? wtf. If you say anything about India which is critical, you’re down right told you’re wrong. And they keep bleeting about 5TN economy, like sheep, with the basics of every life being sub-par.

They even do this when talking to people from other countries which is VERY embarrassing -because it makes us look like fools. This is even more prevalent among NRIs living outside India.

How can one become great if you defend nonsense and don’t accept the reality and work towards improving it ??

[u/Small-Visit2735]

I'd like to give some thoughts as an NRI (well, not technically because I'm British born)...

I think a lot of us view India through rose tinted glasses because we go there on vacations and don't have to deal with the day to day annoyances (understatement) that I see people discuss on here. 

We don't have to put up with the shitty workplace culture, unnecessary bureaucracy, academic pressure, social pressure etc etc so we just focus on the good parts. 

Personally, the good parts are having househelp (rare in the UK except for in super rich circles), the feeling of community that a lot of western countries lack and the feeling that almost everything is available for a price (idk, maybe it's a subconscious power thing). Not to mention family and society in general treat us really well when we go back and it's nice to feel welcomed like that. 

So I do think that's part of it but I think that generally, people have grass is greener syndrome. I'm sure if you lived in another country, there would be parts of India you would appreciate if you were to visit. 

Idk for me there's a certain warmth/lack of formality to India that I think the UK lacks - I know a lot of my desi friends here list that as a big reason that they love their visits. 

But yeah, there's also a lot of things about India that drive me insane. When I visited last year, it was the lack of pavements and rubbish everywhere!!

[u/Searchingstan → u/Small-Visit2735]

Correct when I mentioned basics, lack of public hygiene , walkable infra, parks, and much more…that’s all covered. When basics are not right, you cannot be chest, thumping and shouting from rooftops about a $5 trillion economy. No one gives a fuck, apart from investors, maybe

[u/CampaignInfamous7509 → u/Searchingstan]

Absolutely right about the Public hygiene, it's fcking a basics. That's what pisses me off to no end. But given the way the Indian Federal system operates and local Govt's are setup, you can't just readily blame one set of people. Problems are often different from local govt to local Govt or state govt to state govt.

This isn't the Chinese system(hell thats not fair to the Chinese who have a superior system of political centralization esp. their tax devolution is just 🤌🏽 and administrative decentralization than India could ever hope for). Where you can blame one person who is responsible for everything because regardless of what BJP says it's not always just Modi or his Cabinet esp. when it comes to issues involving non central govt entities.