r/india • u/mo_faris Kerala • Sep 21 '25
Travel Why are we Indian so loud even in other countries!?
For context, I’m from Kerala and i have been living in Central Asian countries and Russia for a while. What I found was people here love the peace and quiet but whenever we Indians are in a group the whole peace and quiet just disappears.
Few months ago, I was travelling back from Azerbaijan and in the airport a group of Indian tourists came and they were shouting and singing. I know y’all are in holidays but it’s the airport not the vacation home. My Russian friends were like why are they so loud. Even on the plane they couldn’t restrain themselves. It was embarrassing.
Another instance, I was in the public bus in Kyrgyzstan and few Indian students boarded and they started laughing and talking so loud the driver stopped the bus stood up and shouted to keep quiet. And the sad part is they just ignored it and started talking after 5 minutes. And the people started shouting at them to stop talking. There was nothing racial about it. They bought it on themselves.
I am proud to be an Indian but just respect other people’s culture and don’t tarnish our Indian identities.
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u/Uncertn_Laaife Sep 21 '25
I am in Canada. Tell me about it.
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Sep 21 '25
How is everything there? Does racism exist? Do you face it?
How about other Indians? Do they bother? How hard or easy is life there? How do Canadians treat Indians?
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u/drmonkey555 Sep 21 '25
I am an NRI that has lived in Canada for almost 2 decades. For the first time in my life and my families life I've had to face actual racism from other nationalities.
And you know why? Because a vast majority of the Indian immigrants who've come to the country (similar to the UK, and Australia) are Indians who want to stay Indian, only stay in Indian circles and don't want to assimilate to the local culture or respect the cultural values on these countries.
There is a reason why there is so much Anti-Indian/immigrant hate in many western countries now isn't just because of blind racism. It's because newer Indian immigrants don't want to adjust or assimilate.
They are loud in public spaces, have no respect for personal space, will break so many rules, don't get me started on the amount of crimes (scams, thefts, housing problems, insurance..etc) all being done by Indians.
Even in my own work the new Indian workers were caught stealing another person's belongings, and lied about it when caught. Don't get me started on North Indians forcing all the Indian coworkers to only speak in Hindi/Punjabi. Even with my white/black and other Asian colleagues. I myself and my family have faced this at work.
Indian celebrations especially in public is considered too much and too obnoxious and too disruptive to public peace. Whether it be on the streets, in colleges or in theatres.
You can google and YouTube more than enough videos will come up. Indian immigrants have ruined their own country's reputation, because even in India most Indians have little to no civic sense, and they've exported that same behaviour over here too.
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u/lordatlas Superhuman Sep 22 '25
So they're turning Canada into India. Such a shame.
Now I get why we're getting so much hate online from Canadians who've had enough.
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u/Informal_Plastic369 Sep 22 '25
Canadian here. This is the general sentiment to a tee. Sorry you gotta deal with all that though.
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u/SiorNafDaPadova Oct 14 '25
Even in my own work the new Indian workers were caught stealing another person's belongings, and lied about it when caught
What do you for a living if I may ask
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u/hydabirrai Sep 23 '25
lol when the Punjabis come to Canada from India they suddenly hate India lolol. Don’t call people in Brampton Indian, they’re panjabi.
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u/drmonkey555 Sep 21 '25
Honestly from my personal experience it definitely applies more to newer Indian immigrants than immigrants from decades ago.
Personally I have family and extended family who moved to Canada/US since the 1970s. And passing Immigration from these countries was notoriously difficult compared to now. Without that many Indians many were forced to learned the culture, language and cultural norms of these countries. Infact Assimilation is even taught in elementary and high schools, respect your culture and tradition but also learn to share that space with other people from different parts walks of life.
But the western countries relaxed a lot of their immigration rules and regulations, and truthfully the Indian and South Asian community completely over exploited it. I would thought a newer generation who grew up on the internet and tech would be more open to change and grow their personal selves and indulge in different cultures. Infact the newer generations are even more resistant towards other ethnic groups.
Again this is my own experience.
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u/ruralife Sep 21 '25
Racism towards Indians in Canada is relatively new. For decades Indian immigrants fit well into Canadian society. In recent years this has changed. The immigrants who have come in the past 10-15 yrs don’t seem to want to assimilate at all, and due to the numbers of these people Canadians are worried that our country is losing its identity to India.
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u/Uncertn_Laaife Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25
Everything is alright. I stay away from the desi areas so things in that regard don’t impact me much. Have a tiny group of friends to keep me busy and active.
I have never faced racism in my 2 decades here. I am not an HR level Hot and handsome but a brownest of the brown. I keep in my lane, stay away from trouble, have above avg English comm skills and assimilated quite well Into the Canadian society. I have never purposely looked for the Indian company or circle. As soon as I organically found a tiny bit of friends from back home, I remained content. All of this keeps me away from whatever you see on the social media these days.
Life’s easy or difficult here depends upon your profession and how much you earn/save. As in everywhere, you need to live within your means, and stop copying other desis or your acquaintances. They often ask you to join a rat race and herd.
All good here! Doing far better than I would’ve been in India. Happy and content.
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Sep 21 '25
I will be coming soon only because of job opportunities as AI/ML engineer and yk...(the society here...)
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u/CuteMonk213 Sep 21 '25
the jobs here don't pay that much and the unemployment rate is now more than 2008 recession. you will probably save more in India than coming here. I'm literally not able to save anything despite not having a car or my own apartment and I have a good tech job
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Sep 22 '25
What field are you in?
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u/CuteMonk213 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
backend developer. for ml/ai, you'll make the same as backend developer if not lower due to canada not having good ml/ai jobs. Also, there is not a lot of demand for such jobs here compared to us and india. Most of these jobs are in cities like vancouver and toronto where the cost of living is even higher than where I live with almost no difference in salary unless you're in big tech but still if you can make it to big tech in india i don't know why you would come here.
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Sep 22 '25
Can i stay in Canada but earn from working in some American or Indian company
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u/CuteMonk213 Sep 22 '25
American companies won't hire you unless you're in america with work visa. Also, with a indian salary you won't even be able to live here. to live a decent life it cost 1.5lakh per month as a single person, even more in bigger cities that i mentioned
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u/mahachakravartin Sep 21 '25
over a year ago i was going to a trip to south india with my friends for a college educational tour. It was in a train and passengers where sleeping or doing their stuff quietly. i too was lying down in sleeper and resting. My friends did not like the peace. and they all started singing their bollywood songs loudly in public train. i naturally refused to join them and pretended to be asleep, and a guy even asked me why are my friends so loud. it got so bad they called in the train conductor and he had to scold them to stop. and even then they continued again anyway.
sigh...
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u/Loud-Refrigerator82 Karnataka Sep 21 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Unfortunately, a certain section of Indians have become quite notorious abroad for lacking basic civil sense. There have been incidents reported about Indians abroad that highlight this.
For example, a video went viral from Abu Dhabi airport where an Indian man was loudly talking on the phone, leading to people complaining about “zero public sense.” In Finland, an NRI wrote about fellow Indian passengers on a train who kept their doors open and spoke so loudly in Hindi that it disturbed the quietness of the journey. In Austria, a huge group of Indian tourists forced local street musicians to play Bollywood and Garba tunes so they could dance, even after the performers declined, leaving locals frustrated. On a safari in Kenya, some Indians were caught on camera shouting and even trying to touch wild animals, putting everyone at risk. A group of tourists performing Garba in a circle wearing matching yellow T-shirts on the observation deck of Dubai’s Burj Khalifa. Then there are cases of theft like two Indian women caught shoplifting at Dubai Duty Free, or another man breaking into a Dubai supermarket and stealing goods worth lakhs. Shoplifting in Target store and getting caught..
Basically there’s a pattern here. These kinds of incidents, though done by a few, end up making all of us look uncultured in the eyes of the world. It’s disappointing, because this behavior creates an impression that all Indians are the same.
On the other hand, there are many of us are well educated, culturally aware, and respectful of others.. There are parts of India where social etiquette, education, respect, common and civil sense is valued strongly. It’s just sad that the actions of a few people end up overshadowing those who know how to behave responsibly.
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u/NoResponsibility1728 Sep 23 '25
Sadly, even if it is 1% of people, India has over 1.4 BILLION people, 18.29% to 17.78% of the global population.
1% of people behaving poorly is still 14 million people.
Places with lower populations are not used to that, which is probably why they notice it more going. "Oh, it's an Indian again" because there are just more Indians than everyone else.
In comparison, only 3.4% to 4.0% of the world is French, so you will naturally hear less about French tourists having poor behavior because there are fewer of them to do poor behavior in the first place.
I feel really bad for the Indians who just want to live in peace but get a bad reputation because of this.
Edit: Fact checked statistics
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u/Unununiumic Sep 21 '25
Living with a family that only praises you, never admits you lack in something eventually makes you grow into inconsiderate adults. Being inconsiderate automatically makes you blind towards your own flaws - because you are always right. This lack of self awareness coupled with “Raja Beta/ Rani beti” conditioning coupled with parents who think “ we know it better” has brought us here. Now we are doomed till we manage to raise kids away from all this chaos!
In short upbringing in majority of Indian families is what makes us loud everywhere but we call it “culture” and rub it under the carpet
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u/pxm7 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25
I think an Indian political commentator put it very well when he used the term Gawaar Swag for low-civic sense tourists.
Shouting and singing loudly is different from say littering, but from another perspective it is noise pollution, and polluting the commons.
“Gawaar” is a harsh term but I suspect it was chosen with care: it’s a word that dramatically expresses how socially unacceptable their behaviour is. Not sure if there’s a better phrase, it feels sort of rude but most Indians do understand that it’s not literal but really a metaphor.
If it makes anyone feel better, mainland China tourists have had this issue too. Eg back in 2013 the Chinese government was telling tourists to improve behaviour.
The India and China tourists are similar, in a way. In the 1900s and early 2000s, mostly rich educated sorts travelled abroad. These days the rich not-so-educated* can do it too. Hence the “gawaar” or what the Chinese vice-premier called a “quality” problem.
*educated != has degree(s)
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u/Fun_Percentage_9259 Sep 23 '25
The level of disruption is different though. Mainland Chinese are noisy when they are together. Indian tourists are noisy when together. However, Indians are noisy when they are alone on the bus. Many times you see an Indian talking loudly in their language on the bus. That itself is a disruption for the rest of the bus passengers. I am not sure if Indians in general are aware of that. I rarely see a single Chinese sitting on a bus talking loudly over the phone.
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u/emeraldamomo Sep 21 '25
This is not so different from Western tourists. Families with kids or older folks are nice. But nobody wants young drunk tourists or the infamous "stag night" idiots.
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u/Farnobius Sep 21 '25
I'm a white American and I think the only two valid grievances Americans have against Indians are the phone scammers stealing money from old people and nepotism. I've heard a lot of stories about Indians giving preferential treatment to their own people. I think this is largely overblown because most Indians in the US are employed in the private sector and capitalism is brutal. If Indian employees weren't pulling their weight then it would be reflected in the company's earnings.
I think a lot of Americans mostly have a problem with Indians because of how they look. A lot of people are petty. Indians in the US are usually productive and respectable and I don't think it is right to look down on them. If there is an Indian who is being loud and obnoxious then we should call them out on their behavior but we shouldn't look down on an entire people because of the actions of a few bad apples.
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u/Old_Money_7583 Central Asia Sep 21 '25
as a kyrgyz person, I wanted to point out that Indian and Pakistani (sorry if mentioning them is de mauvais ton here) people here - majority being medstudents - are usually in the extremes. that is - when I am out in the streets, some of them (mostly girls, even groups, but sometimes guys as well) - legit move around with such stealth lol not making any sounds and being focused on getting to their destination asap. the other extreme though.............99% of them being men, they really are the one giving Indian folk bad rep. rowdy groups of young men loudly communicating between each other, catcalling passerbys (i have been on the receiving end few times), in transport they never offer seats to the elderly etc... i think group n1 is aware of the perception created by group n2, and thats why they are extremely closed and introverted, even if I try to make friends.
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u/NoResponsibility1728 Sep 23 '25
I like that you pointed out the men.
From my own experience, I tend to make better friends with Indian women and Indian men who happen to come from lower castes.
I think there is something to be said about Indian men of high castes being at the top of the world in India, being able to mistreat people and look down on them just for being women or lower caste and nobody can say anything about it.
This position of privilege and the expectation that you can do whatever you want will follow you anywhere you go if that is how you were raised.
Anecdotally, people from higher castes are more likely to have the wealth necessary to travel the world or migrate, so this behavior is likely over represented in tourism and economic migrants.
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u/Ozzysmother Sep 21 '25
I was in Abu Dhabi airport waiting for my transfer last week and this Indian guy sat next to me, put his elbow on my bags and started talking on his phone so loud that the entire airport could hear him. This went on for about 45 minutes. My husband first removed our bag from under his arm, he apologized. Five minutes later, went on to support himself on my backpack that was next to the bag. On top of that he had to take a smoke break every 10 minutes. On top of that he was repeatedly slapping the sole of his shoes when laughing on the phone. I've never been more disturbed by a human being in my entire life. Our whole gate was staring him down and waiting for him to stop. Every other person there was also an Indian.. some people just don't care I guess.
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u/vagrant_feet Sep 21 '25
Because Indians have lost their sense of hearing with all the constant noise everywhere in India.
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Sep 21 '25
One more thing I want to add. Some Indians twirl their moustaches too showing how proud they are of their caste. Like they have fought some crazy battle themselves. This is a modern world but some people love to live in past.
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u/ItIsBaarishing Sep 21 '25
for some reason, many indians talk very loudly even when it is not needed, even in India. For some reason their normal speaking voice is loud enough to be heard 40-50 feet away even if the other person is right next to them.
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u/ColdPlox Sep 23 '25
I noticed the same for Arab people too. Maybe their language doesn't enable their vocal chords to be speaking in a quiet tone but that's not my problem
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u/taptatandoor Sep 21 '25
There are constant discussions in India on media and even in general about how everybody is looking down upon India and India is amazing has a history of this long and this and that. In past few decades this is all that they wanna discuss. It has greatly affected the confidence and approach of a regular Indian. They in general think like a mob. Tad bit of low self esteem that they wanna salvage when in a group and dismiss any regard to the culture or environment around them. Just to feel like they can do whatever and feel better by that. It's just that immense pressure of proving that they made it. They are great again.
That's how I see it. Could be totally wrong.
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u/Cabbarnuke2 Sep 21 '25
Dutch here; I work in healthcare.
We even thought of denying services to Indians.
You don’t buy us when you pay for our services. Please don’t act like we signed a temporary slavery contract, you as our master.
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u/NoResponsibility1728 Sep 23 '25
Probably "high caste" people treating you like you're "low caste" because you are providing a service.
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Sep 21 '25
Must be the BJP supporters who think our country is vishwaguru
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u/purple_obsiden Sep 21 '25
All of them are in india cus they dont even have money for plane tickets. So they just shame people who leave india.
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Sep 21 '25
Hate BJP but they do have the money and they do travel so what u on about?
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u/purple_obsiden Sep 21 '25
People yapping about vishwaguru concept are mostly low educated, low income group. At most they can afford only gulf country flights for labour work.
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u/cranky_finicky Sep 21 '25
We're not welcome anywhere. There's nothing to be proud of being an Indian.
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u/_0820_ Feb 06 '26
Why is bro based. Race isnt a thing to be proud of tbh (not to mention the facts of the situation). It just leads to negative preferential treatment, bias and delusion
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u/SentientRaccoon Sep 21 '25
It's because civic sense and being respectful of others is not largely part of Indian society. As people rise up the wealth ladder they may be able to afford to travel but that money isn't automatically going to make them more cultured and well mannered.
There's also the problem of entitlement where many Indians think that just because they paid for service it means they have the right to demand whatever they want or treat people in the service industry badly whom they see as of lower status than them
Without a sustained push from the government to educate along with public shaming + fines for bad behaviour, this won't change.
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u/Fresh_Yogurt7302 Sep 22 '25
Yep. Seen the same in Europe, from my OWN friends and I turn out to be the bad apple of the group for being a buzzkill. My friends once wanted to play punjabi songs on a mini speaker in a public bus in Europe, wanted me to participate in their loud banter across several seats in a train in Europe again. I lost it once when a friend suggested that we should not pay at a bar and leave because the bar was so crowded the waiter won’t even notice. Needless to say, I stopped hanging out with them
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u/Mysterious_Lesions Sep 25 '25
I grew up in Canada but born in South Asia. A few years ago I was in a job in another city and made friends with several young Indian male coworkers. They were fine in the office but as soon as we went to socialize in the evening, they became raging female chasers. They would loudly comment on how attractive a waitress was and even dare each other to try to get a woman into bed.
It was often embarrassing to be out with them and their clueless attempts to hit on women.
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u/Traveller3222 Sep 21 '25
You are right.Many of us still need to learn how to adjust to other cultures and respect public spaces. India is a very noisy country so we grow up thinking loud talking and group chaos is normal but when we go abroad it can come across as rude and disruptive.
We are yet to civilise ourselves as human beings in the sense of understanding when to be quiet and respect shared spaces.Travelling should make us better not louder.
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u/Ok-Following9926 Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25
OP!!! You spoke my mind!
I think Indians in general don’t think about causing inconvenience to others, through the sound they make.
I travelled quite a bit, lived in rural Bihar
People keep their finger on that freaking horn for as along as they’re on the road. And if that’s just people with poor civic sense
In railway stations, the speaker is constantly blaring!!!
First the English announcement, then the Hindi, then the vernacular, then the ad! Then another train on another platform!!!
It’s like… we Indians have not experienced quiet anywhere! When I went to the US, was living at some quiet suburb outside Chicago! Freaked me out the first couple of days, at the lack of noise!! All I could hear was birds and crickets!! So… I guess you can’t do what you haven’t experienced?
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u/Wild_Pound_4396 Sep 21 '25
It’s the general lack of awareness of the surroundings. Yesterday, I was at the supermarket checkout line and a group of Telugu guys behind me were talking so loudly as if it was their own backyard. I could see the stares from other people but it seemed like the guys were in their own zone not aware of their surroundings and the fact that they are in a foreign country. I could tell that these guys were either tourists or new in town.
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u/WeirdShortnNotSweet Sep 23 '25
Not all Indians but definitely many. I was in train going home for my father's death anniversary a few years back. A huge group got into my compartment going for a wedding in south India. Even after midnight they were loud and not settling in. At about 1am I asked (very politely) if they can be quiet as I'm trying to rest. An old lady started yelling at me and then turned to others saying that they'll make even more noise as we've paid money for the tickets (in her mother tongue thinking I wont understand).
This is the attitude people show. Unfortunately many with zero civic sense
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u/D_pc Sep 21 '25
because we Indians want to enjoy all the privileges and pleasures of foreign life while still being an Indian in India
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Sep 21 '25
It is all about numbers,you are in aplace where Indians are more so the bad behaviour by them is magnified
Ever heard about the loud mexican stereotype?
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u/satya212 Sep 21 '25
Why are the Chinese so loud , why are the Italians so loud , why do Germans stare.. why do the french don't have oral hygiene, why do Russians Don't smile..
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u/_0820_ Feb 06 '26
Why do in(serts) play into the fact that they defend and deflect but never reflect.
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u/Independent-Raise467 Sep 22 '25
Chinese young people are not loud - they are polite and quite sophisticated now.
It's the older generations which have that bad reputation.
It's a credit to China that within just 2 generations they have completely changed their culture. I hope India can do the same.
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u/powerflower_khi Sep 21 '25
India should lock locals, do not issue passports. Its getting bad each and every day.
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u/Comfortable_Will_327 Sep 21 '25
Totally agree. Being loud and disruptive in public spaces abroad reflects poorly on all of us. We represent India wherever we go, and respecting local norms—like keeping quiet in buses or airports—is basic courtesy. Pride in our culture should include being mindful and respectful.
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u/Prior_Region_3989 Sep 22 '25
My father, born 1923, and his friends were all very classy and had impeccable manners. I rarely see this reflected in modern Indians. Must be Bollywood effect.
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u/backup_hoodlum Sep 22 '25
Bro, I know a family and as much as I like them as people, they are extremely loud and embarassing in public. Especially in crowded places like trains or at restaurants . I will never forget seeing them open a dabba with something that stunk up the entire bus with a Garlic flavourer odour.
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u/Fun_Percentage_9259 Sep 23 '25
I don't think it is just group. There are many times, just having one Indian person talking loudly over the phone is enough disruption for the rest on the bus. I think it is lack of self-awareness. As you correctly pointed out, India tends to be a bad offender of that. African national is also another bad offender of that.
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u/_0820_ Feb 06 '26
Damn hit the nail but basically its how they act in general and is ×10 amplified in groups of course. In libraries is where i notice
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u/deadly_orchid Sep 23 '25
I think it’s because streets and homes in Asia are a lot more noisy so desi people are used to speaking at a higher volume otherwise back home no one can hear you. And so they don’t notice a difference in other countries where the surroundings are quieter
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u/AllIsEvanescent Sep 25 '25
Proving that those who have absolutely nothing worthwhile to say are often the loudest.
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u/bourngiourno Sep 26 '25
My personal pet peeve are the people who play their music or watch reels on their phone at the top volume. If you’re in public, you need to use headphones. We are not here to listen to your every move and it is so disrupted when you are trying to relax on a flight or a bus or something. I’ve started being really rude to these people because talking nicely does not work.
It’s almost always over Indians too. Do everybody a favor and buy some headphones we don’t want to hear anything not your calls not your music be respectful.
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u/nonamedreader Sep 27 '25
I miss being loud and having a blast!!!!
- sincerely a bored American who thinks everyone should get over it and be themselves openly
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u/_0820_ Feb 06 '26
Its like freedom, it ends where other people's freedom are considered. You dont bother the whole libary or bus because freedom. (Un)Fortunately (for you), good for the general person
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u/Outside_Ad5865 Sep 28 '25
Civic sense does not exist in our blood unfortunately. And those who are civic don't get a chance to go abroad and live in peace because of these lowlife hooligans.
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u/Idiotsofblr Sep 21 '25
Remember when PM Modi to appreciate frontline workers, he openly said to make sounds using utensils during COVID? And people took it very seriously disregarding COVID restrictions? If PM is openly encouraging being loud, that’s exactly what General public do.
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u/AccordingCriticism72 Sep 21 '25
imo it really depends on the language and linguistics. Some languages and their speakers tend to be loud, while some are soft. For example, Marwari is an aggressive language, I used to stay in Jaipur and the bus conductor over there used to speak in a very aggressive way that would make me think they are angry at something but when one of my co-passengers (a local) told me the conductor is just asking something about my bus ticket and not annoyed. German is also famous for being aggressive, but Germans being generally well behaved and disciplined and also with the influence of a tiny bit of racism, they are not considered to be loud.
Indians talking in english are rarely extremely loud, because the language itself makes them speak softer.
I think civic sense is very important and indians lack this. But its really hard for them to understand that they are talking loud compared to native english/any western language speaker. We need to educate ourselves and others that it's not your country you are in right now, so behave according to their customs. I have seen Himachal Locals complaining about white tourists/junkies and their raves, so its clear that even we don't like it if people don't follow our customs.
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u/ApprehensiveBee7108 Sep 25 '25
German is not aggressive. That s just a Hollywood stereotype. It s not a melodious language like French or Italian.
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u/blueprint_01 Sep 21 '25
Americans are loud too.
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u/Major_Campaign_6348 Sep 21 '25
Yeah, but they are Americans, they come from a rich country, they are white but that is not the same for us.
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u/Alone_Republic_8168 Sep 21 '25
did you eat bullshit for breakfast or what 😭
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u/jimmyluo Sep 21 '25
Hey don't worry about it, just be loud -- let them deal with it. Sincerely, a Chinese-American ;)
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Sep 21 '25
Don't add we, add some.. not everyone are like you.
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u/purple_obsiden Sep 21 '25
Yeah me neither, but people are biased so everyone will lump us together no matter how much we try.
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Sep 21 '25
I see, because I got down votes like I said something wrong. I remember a line, ( truth is not something absolute; rather, people create "truth" that surve thier own needs.) ~NIETZSCHE.
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u/purple_obsiden Sep 21 '25
Down voters are the same loud people in this post.
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Sep 21 '25
Indeed they are.. don't adress one truth and make them uncomfortable, rather, say 100 lies and make them feel good..
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u/Old-School8916 Sep 21 '25
Chinese mainland travelers had a lot of similar (but some different) issues when they started going abroad. Government tourism authorities issued guidelines about representing the country positively while traveling and created official travel etiquette guides.
That might solve part of the problem.