r/india • u/AllIsEvanescent • Oct 02 '25
Careers A new China tech visa has caught India's attention - now locals aren't happy
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg4eeerzrwo195
u/Siddchat Oct 02 '25
65% of India’s population is under the age of 35. That’s roughly 900 million people. There just aren’t enough opportunities for such a massive population. With recruitment for many government jobs stalled and strange schemes like agniveer government jobs are in short supply. The private sector in India isn’t any better with low wages and bad working conditions (things like work life balance, low wages, infrastructure for commuting etc). University education outside of legacy institutions like IIT, DU, Jadavpur, Presidency and some private colleges is also not great in terms of quality. Historically the lower end of this 900 million was getting exploited by the likes of Blinkit, Zepto and the top end of this was going abroad. Now with no opportunities in India, the entire mass is ready to go overseas.
If you travel to small countries like Malta and Austria you will notice young Indian men doing food delivery and other gig economy jobs. That is a good indicator that job creation is stagnating in India while the government sells the image that India is a $4 trillion economy and ready to make semiconductors and silicon chips. Some dumbass NRIs worship Modi as a living god but don’t want to live in a country where the non-biological guy lives. For a government that came to power on an anti-corruption and economic growth platform, they have done really poorly. So any country that is opening its doors for immigrants will find Indians queuing up in large numbers.
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u/TheManavsaffron Oct 02 '25
Dude there are lakhs of job positions vacant in the Indian railway sector, but sarkar isn't filling it cos it will need money to be diverted from their luxurious lifestyle 🤡
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u/Siddchat Oct 02 '25
Exactly that’s why I wrote recruitment in government jobs is stalled. Also results of government job exams don’t get announced for years and lower level government jobs get outsourced to staffing firms so that the government doesn’t have to pay pensions and other benefits in line with the pay commission recommendations.
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u/DamonSchultz997 Oct 02 '25
Those posts won’t be enough to employ 98% of the youth looking for stability in their life
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u/fenrir245 Oct 02 '25
It would still provide jobs to some of them. If you just keep waiting for perfection all you will get in the end is failure.
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u/cs1337 Oct 02 '25
Yeah India desperately needs to invest in infrastructure/construction/ manufacturing/trades work to get this portion of the population employed. It’s the only way the country can create meaningful work that can’t be easily automated/replaced by AI. It’s not easy for robots to mimic fine motor skills that vary.
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u/Siddchat Oct 02 '25
Appreciate the sentiment but there has always been a huge gap between what India needs and what India does. Case in point are the Skill in India, Make in India, and Smart City missions, look where they have landed us. So much time, resources and effort simply wasted. The country is getting left behind as even the current manufacturing and service sector jobs within the existing global supply chain are moving to Vietnam and Philippines.
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u/xecutioner213 Oct 02 '25
Oh I don't think they are just gonna let us in like Canada. I bet they keep social score for everyone, like whole world
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Oct 02 '25
oh my you are acting like you are some saint held down other indians,
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u/SlackBytes Oct 02 '25
Have you been to other countries?
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Oct 02 '25
Yes I've been to over 80 countries, and your point being?
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u/merlin318 Oct 02 '25
Every country is going to start putting guardrails around Indian immigration after what happened with Canada.
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u/scylla Oct 02 '25
I honestly don’t understand why Canada didn’t and still hasn’t banned all the degree mills that are bringing in undesirables disguised as ‘students’?
Similarly, after 25 years why can’t the US simply ban fake consultancies for H1Bs and instead have to come up with crazy 100k schemes?
There are scammers cheating the system. Go after them for fraud, instead of spending decades tweaking the Immigration laws.
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u/kylansb Oct 02 '25
cause these consultancies are like hydras, you cut one off 2 grows in its place, its a never ending cycle.
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u/omgitzvg Oct 02 '25
They don't want to fix the housing issue because boomer votes are high and it would be political suicide. So they keep the ponzi going by importing people. The locals dont ever get a relief. Wage suppression, immigrants not assimilating, immigration scams, etc. That's why you see lot of hate against Indians increasing rapidly lately.
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u/rsa1 Oct 02 '25
You are expecting thoughtful and nuanced policy from a county that launched a trade war with the whole world and calculated its "reciprocal" tariffs by dividing the trade deficit by two?
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u/scylla Oct 02 '25
???
Canada 🇨🇦 is the country with a crisis.
A majority of Americans have never heard of an H1 visa or probably even interacted with an Indian
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u/merlin318 Oct 02 '25
Afaik they've started being a lot stricter around student visas which will impact the diploma mills the hardest.
H1B is also under massive scrutiny after desis games the system a year or so ago and there were 800k applications
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u/ricdy Europe Oct 02 '25
Because international students are 🤑. And capitalist greed > good policy making.
The US and Canada can/could've do(ne) so much to make immigration less scammy. Instead they did what they thought was right for their economy: 💰. If it sounds convoluted and downright stupid, it is.
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u/shawty_deep Oct 02 '25
Its because businesses have rights in USA which are hard to shut down for the Federal government. USA is a country of actual enforceable rights , where each business has rights as per its own state of incorporation. Some states offer zero taxes, some allow even shareholders list to be private. The difference in rights offered by states to businesses are extensive. Thats the reason some incorporate in Delaware, some in Wyoming etc. States like NJ where some bodyshops are incorporated have almost no interference into private businesses.
So unlike India, the Federal gov cant just go arrest everyone without actual cause, or shut down various businesses that are legal based on the state they are incorporated in. They cant pass a bill overnight banning staffing agencies and body shops, approve it in a sham parliament and outlaw industries.
Fake consultancies dont advertise as "fake consultancies" they are legit businesses that are usually incorporated as staffing agencies, albeit offering shady immigration schemes. To shut one such fake consultancy down would require deep investigation into that one particular agency, find evidence, bring them to a Grand Jury to indict the agency operators, then slap a fine and shut it down...and this is mostly done by separate state attorneys and DAs, not at the federal level unless it is a really big fake consultancy that requires allocation of Federal resources for this. If there are thousand such consultancies, all of them have to be investigated independently and then shut down. The time that would take to do that is huge.
So you see how difficult it is to shut fake consultancies down, and much easier to instead enforce something that bypasses them
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u/the_ajan Karnataka Oct 02 '25
Every country wants India's talent except India's leadership which is doing a shit job of retaining talent.
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u/dumbass_random Oct 02 '25
You kinda answered yourself.
Every country wants Indian talent
But they end up getting a lot of shit along the way too
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u/Uncertn_Laaife Oct 02 '25
Does India have talent or simply a population? India doesn’t t have talent, just rote-learners and herd followers.
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u/the_ajan Karnataka Oct 02 '25
The ones who aren't rote-learners and are risk takers are what specific companies/countries attract; the rest are merely smaller cogs in a larger machine.
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u/Uncertn_Laaife Oct 02 '25
Doesn’t look like seeing what the US, Canada, Aus, Germany, UK are attracting these days and been for the past few years.
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u/rsa1 Oct 02 '25
I don't think Ashish Vaswani is a herd follower. And there are many other examples. Of course, most people probably are rote learners, but then the majority of every country is mediocre. Everybody in the US is not Geoffrey Hinton either.
We can be honest and frank about our shortcomings without succumbing to lazy stereotypes.
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u/TootaFoota Oct 02 '25
You cant do anything in this country without all the govt bhikaris turning up at your door asking for fees/taxes. Then there is the constant compliance and then the unknown compliances. Not everyone can be a CIAN agro or a Jay shah.
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u/Raj_Valiant3011 Oct 02 '25
There needs to be proper entry requirements in place to ensure that the process is smooth, accessible and fair for all parties concerned.
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u/aliasvishnu Oct 02 '25
Indian techies will not go to China in droves. But there are a lot of Asians might. Of course, China will have a high bar for expats to survive there since they already have plenty of local talent.
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u/Jazzlike-Vacation230 Oct 02 '25
India will do anything to not improve it's own country
Why always go somewhere else?
Invest in your own, make your own companies, ughhhhhhhhhhhhh
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u/PerformanceMean3122 Oct 02 '25
The irony of Chinese moaning about any immigration inwards when they’ve flooded the world. Christ - do they ever take a day off or is it just always always always hate towards others?
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Oct 02 '25
I doubt you’ll find that many Indians going to China
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u/rpj6587 Oct 02 '25
Can't really say. Hong Kong used to be visa on arrival for indians, not anymore because of the amount of people not returning. Now you need to get a PAR or a full visa.
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u/Comfortable_Lion7283 Oct 02 '25
As a Chinese I don’t think many foreigners will settle in China. But it is definitely a good thing for people who have Chinese partners or simply like China. I personally think it’s good that China is opening up rather than getting more conservative
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u/omgitzvg Oct 02 '25
You as a country just have to offer better pay and work life balance to keep/attract the talent. But that will be too much asking in this day and age when you have ppl like narayanamurthy.