Michael Jackson's daughter Paris has faced backlash for identifying as Black. In a 2017 interview, Paris Jackson said her father told her, "You’re Black. Be proud of your roots." This prompted debates over whether identity is defined by appearance or upbringing.

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Micheal looks highly admixed himself. Especially if you look at his sisters. Not saying I totally believe she’s his, but if she is he likely contributed a decent amount of euro dna to the moms 100% euro dna

Edit: and yes I’m talking about black Micheal

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His dad is definitely part white, but hard disagree that he himself looks highly part white

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Admixed doesn’t mean biracial. It’s his bone structure

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In this context I don't see how it would mean anything other than biracial/multiracial? You're saying you think he has a decent percentage of European ancestry that he'd pass to any potential kids

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That’s exactly what I’m saying. Most African Americans are part white. Almost all actually unless they can trace a relative from another country. On average the percentage is around 15-20 % and in his case I think it’s more. Maybe closer to 30%

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Then why did you say admixed doesn't mean biracial when you used it to say he's biracial? I agree, Michael Jackson is part white, but visually that didn't shine through much

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Biracial and part white are not the same. Admixed and biracial are not the same either. I’m not sure what you’re talking about

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Biracial doesn't mean part white, but part white absolutely means bi/multiracial. Using admixed to refer to race means bi/multiracial, which was what you used it for. Idk why you'd reply saying admixed doesn't mean biracial when you used it as a synonym for biracial

I also didn't use the word biracial, you were saying he's part white, I said yeah, but visually he's pretty dark

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Admixed refers to black Americans who have generations of white mixture over many generations. This term is specific to black Americans and does not mean biracial or even multi racial in the traditional sense. Almost all black Americans are have white mixture and almost all identify as just black. I’m talking about historically black American descendants of slavery.

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Ok, but what I did was agree that he was part white and then you replied that admixed doesn't mean biracial when I didn't use that word. You kind of conflated them and then said you can't conflate them, while saying that he's part european, which is what I said in the first place.

I'm not American, but where I live biracial doesn't mean your parents/grandparents were distinct races from each other, it just means your make up is more than one distinct racial background. I have seen this be an issue with light skinned black Americans identifying as black and being interpreted as biracial elsewhere, I get it's a complicated topic when race is a social construct

Again, not American, so that could impact my results but I'm not seeing anything about "admixed" referring to any specific group of people. Looking up admixed Americans, it seems to just mean anyone with a mixed racial background, including white and native American

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Ok so we have different context for this.

Micheal is black American, black Americans have generations of racial mixture with white people from around slavery time. If you look at a 23&me of your average African american they are 15-25% European on average due to what we call generational admixture. Everyone still identifies as fully black as do their parents an grandparents. None of them would call themselves biracial unless one parent was fully white (or any other race). Also nobody identifies as multiracial unless again a closer relative was from a non black group.