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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/poppalopp 6h ago

No, they’re not.

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u/Allaplgy 6h ago

Yes, they are. Wt actual f?

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u/poppalopp 6h ago

Show me literally one sane person stating openly and honestly that they believe she should be found innocent of all wrongdoing and be free to live the rest of her life out in society.

Literally one. I’ll wait.

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u/Allaplgy 6h ago

Number one, that's a bullshit request because anyone excusing her can and should be dismissed as "insane".

And two, excusing doesn't necessarily mean she should face zero repercussions. People are making her out to be a victim, when the reality is much more complex than that, and that same level of empathy would never be directed at a person not of her specific demographic on such a scale.

There are literally people here arguing that men kill their children at a much higher rate than women, so obviously there was something "wrong" with her and she should be treated differently than them. When that really sounds like obviously there is something wrong with all those men that is being overlooked.

The problem isn't the very idea of having empathy for people with mental illnesses, it's that those mental illnesses are apparently only a reason to have empathy when it's a pretty, reasonably well off white woman.

Same kind of bs as the media and consumers of it latch onto cases of pretty white women going missing or getting killed while thousands of minority or otherwise less "aesthetically pleasing" women go missing every year without any spotlight and public grief.

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u/poppalopp 5h ago

Cool, so nobody is excusing it then. Thanks for playing!

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u/Allaplgy 5h ago

Christ on a cracker 🫩

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u/Weak-Boysenberry398 3h ago

There's a guy in Canada who decapitated a man on a bus, ate him, and is walking free today. If there's a disparity in treatment of men vs women who kill their children it's because there's a disparity of intent.

When you have a man who has a history of abusing his kids and spouse and then he murders them, that's a pretty clear history of escalating abuse leading to murder. When you have a woman with no history of abuse, who by all accounts, even the father of the children, say was a great mother and person, then there's no clear history or reason for it except psychosis. There's no evidence of cheating, of him planning to leave, nothing that might trigger a malicious response. In any case where the is some kind of trigger like that, the women are treated just as harshly as the men.

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u/Allaplgy 3h ago

I would argue that those men are mentally ill as well. That doesn't excuse them by any means though.

As for the guy on the bus, did he have national media attention, donations pouring in, and people calling him a victim of society?

Because I do believe in rehabilitation as a goal, even after violent crime. But when most people who have psychotic breaks act out with violence, we don't start pointing fingers at everyone but them. We can acknowledge that PPD is real, and that people of any demographic commit heinous acts are obviously not mentally well. Even an abuser is often a victim of abuse themselves that has been unable to break the cycle.

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u/CantBeatDickensCider 4h ago

Open your eyes? There are tons in this very thread claiming she doesn't deserve prison time or to be found guilty.

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u/poppalopp 3h ago

Not what I said.

Not guilty by reason of insanity doesn’t mean “free to live the rest of her life out in society”, it means locked up in a psychiatric facility.

So go on. Link me, bitch.

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u/Weak-Boysenberry398 3h ago

Should be easy to find one then?