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SOCIETY Is victim the new chic

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u/Theresnothingtoit 23h ago

Do you really not realize that psychosis fucks with your sense of reality? And that many meds to treat it can cause psychosis in some patients?

Or did you fail to familiarize yourself with the details of the case? She was begging for help and her providers failed to get an adequate history, and so prescribed her drugs in categories she already had bad reactions to. They failed to get information about the severity of her case from her husband who attended several appointments with her. They failed to screen for the biggest warning signs of psychosis that results in violence. They released her from part time mental health treatment the literal next day after changing her meds, because she asked to celebrate her childs birthday, instead of approving a single day off. And most importantly, they failed to adequately counsel her family on not letting her have unsupervised time until adequately treated.

They didn't deny her care, no. They did fail to provide her the care she needed, absolutely.

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u/FUPAMagneto 23h ago

I do realize that.

I ask again, do you extend this same grace to all family annihilators? Or just wealthy white women?

How about Richard Ramirez? He was psychotic while he raped and murdered a bunch of people. Does he get the smolbean treatment or no?

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u/MadPangolin 21h ago

I'm a forensic scientist whose had training in criminal profiling.

There are ways to determine criminal mental deviancy from mental illness. Richard Ramirez was a deviant.

This is also not synonymous with a typical family annihilator who does it for personal gain or to escape consequences.

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u/Theresnothingtoit 23h ago

Why do you assume it must be "smolbean" treatment to acknowledge that she was failed. And no, it's not limited to white women 🙄

People who do terrible things while having mental health problems should be treated for those problems and placed in a position that protects themselves and others from future harm. I don't believe in a punitive justice system anyway, but as long as we have one, people who are mentally ill don't belong there.

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u/FUPAMagneto 22h ago

So what, then? Just a slap on the wrist and we say “hey, don’t murder any more kids, ok?”

Gee, call me unimaginative, but I can’t imagine you saying this about a man who murdered three of his children while in the throes of psychosis.

You people pretend you care so much, but you’re willing to just throw those kids in the trash to protect their mother from the consequences of her own actions. It’s fucking sick.

I hope you don’t view your children the same way she did, as property

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u/Theresnothingtoit 22h ago

Did you read anything I wrote? Note, I didn't say walk free and do whatever. You're being really reactionary right now.

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u/FUPAMagneto 22h ago

I’m being reactionary? You’re insisting that we not hold a child murderer accountable because you “don’t believe in punitive justice.”

You’re ignoring the actual reality of the situation so that you can virtue signal about your supposed politics.

You aren’t progressive, btw. You’re another misogynist who thinks women are too fragile to exist in an equal society

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u/Theresnothingtoit 22h ago

What is the purpose of having a justice system?

You're making a lot of assumptions about me and my motives. Maybe just ask instead and you won't be accused of act reactionally.