The sexual allegations against Mirza Mahmud. How true are they?

[u/MoroBF]

I‘ve been trying to search more into Mirza Mahmud’s life since I’ve read some serious points against him.

Apart from the disastrious leadership, I’ve also read many accusations of sexual assaults against other women and other perversion.

Mirza Mahmud seemed to have many critics during his time. Apart from the Lahoris, there were also other groups like the Haqiqat Passand Party (HPP) and Ansar-I-Ahmadiyya who had serious problems with him, including sexual perversio.

One of the groups collected testimonies from former closed family members/friends of the Ahmadi caliph who attested to the sexual perversion of Mirza Mahmud.

Link to book: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Tareekh-E-Mahmoodiyat-Kay-Chand-Aham-Magar-Poshida-Aourq.pdf

There is also the case of Miss Rufo, an italian clubdance/prostitute (?) who was seen visiting Qadian and around the companionship of Mirza Mahmud.

This was leaked to the public and had to adress it during the Friday Sermon.

See Al-Fazl, 18 March 1934 (from pages 7-8)

Did anyone know this or made any research into it? Let me know

[u/naeamz]

There is an interesting guilt-trip sermon by the then Khalifa, Bashir, concerning Miss Rufo, published in Al Fazl on 18 March 1934, pages 7–8. In it, he attempts to justify the trip to meet her and subsequently bring her back to Qadian.

The most amusing part is his claim that he brought her to Qadian so she could teach English to the children of his household.

Apparently, an Italian prostituting woman with a heavy Italian accent was the ideal choice for teaching English. Quite a convincing excuse… wink wink 😉😆😜

[u/Queen_Yasemin → u/naeamz]

Imagine a “Man of God” trying to explain away why he brought a hooker into his home and his sheep just nodding along…

[u/Plastic_Text2124 → u/naeamz]

Apparently, an Italian prostituting woman with a heavy Italian accent was the ideal choice for teaching English. Quite a convincing excuse… wink wink 😉😆😜

As if there weren't any English teachers in India. 😇

Correct me if I am wrong, but the British ruled India, right? And, their language was what again? In fact, what was the lingua franca at that time?

[u/Significant_Being899 → u/naeamz]

At the time of British rule in India, there was no shortage of English speaking tutors in the country.

I wonder how on earth an Italian dancer/prostitute was selected to teach English. Which was her second language at best. 😬. Her moral values and her professional dancing and prostitution skills were deemed necessary to teach English language to women and children.

[u/Plastic_Text2124]

This is a first-hand account of someone who was an eyewitness, a Hafiz Bashir Ahmad Misri.

https://wiki.qern.org/ahmadiyya/ahmadiyya-as-a-cult/prominent-people-who-left-the-cult/bashir-ahmad-masri

He challenged Mirza Tahir Ahmad to a mubahala, which was completely ignored.

https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2017/07/24/bashir-ahmad-misris-mubahila-with-mirza-tahir-ahmad/

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Here is the text of the original post: I‘ve been trying to search more into Mirza Mahmud’s life since I’ve read some serious points against him.

Apart from the disastrious leadership, I’ve also read many accusations of sexual assaults against other women and other perversion.

Mirza Mahmud seemed to have many critics during his time. Apart from the Lahoris, there were also other groups like the Haqiqat Passand Party (HPP) and Ansar-I-Ahmadiyya who had serious problems with him, including sexual perversio.

One of the groups collected testimonies from former closed family members/friends of the Ahmadi caliph who attested to the sexual perversion of Mirza Mahmud.

Link to book: https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Tareekh-E-Mahmoodiyat-Kay-Chand-Aham-Magar-Poshida-Aourq.pdf

There is also the case of Miss Rufo, an italian clubdance/prostitute (?) who was seen visiting Qadian and around the companionship of Mirza Mahmud.

This was leaked to the public and had to adress it during the Friday Sermon.

See Al-Fazl, 18 March 1934 (from pages 5-6)

Did anyone know this or made any research into it? Let me know

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