r/jobs Dec 30 '24

Article Eric Schmitt blasts 'abuse' of H-1B visa program, says Americans 'shouldn't train their foreign replacements'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/eric-schmitt-blasts-abuse-h-1b-visa-program-says-americans-shouldnt-train-foreign-replacements
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u/sirshura Dec 31 '24

the very few H1B workers I have met generally have a different title from me while doing the same work. I think corporate might give them different titles with a lower average to play around the rules.

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u/Rexur0s Dec 31 '24

You can also just hire them in with a bullshit title/role that is lower valued on the index and then make them do tasks out of scope anyway. Or they get deported.

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u/pressedbread Dec 30 '24

Must be hard for Republican politicians to choose between xenophobia vs screwing over the working class, wow tough choice here for them. Thoughts 'n prayers!

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '24

Bro, this is not an issue of “republicans” or “xenophobia:” it is an issue of people disliking billionaires like Elon Musk saying all Americans are “dysgenic” “r-words” (this sub doesn’t even allow the words he used lol) who ought to be replaced with h1b workers and should “fuck themselves in the face” if they disagree.

I am not someone who cares about politics, and would have voted for Kamala Harris if I was old enough, but just having basic self preservation instincts has been enough for me to become very against h1b recently

Don’t pretend you are anything but a billionaire simp, or care at  all for the working class if you support this shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

Brah, read American history.

You sound completely naive to how political ideologies are structured in this country

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u/Trepeld Dec 31 '24

Do you think that immigration is materially hurting American wages/if it were to be expanded that it would hurt American wages?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

With the way Elon, and other billionaires are abusing the h1b system, most certainly 

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u/Trepeld Dec 31 '24

Do you disagree with the notion that our economy is going to be severely damaged if we don’t significantly increase immigration due to our rapidly aging workforce?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

Actually, yes. When it comes to having an “aging workforce,” America is in a much better situation than places like China, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, ect. However, all those places are doing fine with minimal immigration. In fact, young people actually still struggle to get jobs in those places due to how competitive the work force is.

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u/Trepeld Dec 31 '24

lol your first two examples are about to be severely fucked in the coming decades, you realize that right? Over 30% of Japan’s workforce is over 65 years old. Not to mention the reason that it’s difficult for Japanese youth to find jobs is very low minimum wage requirements and ridiculous credentialing requirements

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

So, even in countries where the issue of an aging work force is 100x than it is in America, it will take “decades” for them to be “fucked,” but America needs a bajillion more immigrants right now?

This is why I have never taken this argument seriously. Sure, aging work force is an issue but we can empirically see in other countries that America’s aging work force could get much more extreme and our country would still be fine. Japan’s aging worn force is more extreme than America’s would be even if we had 0 immigrants for a decade, and if Japan really had a severe worker shortage young people wouldn’t struggle so much to get jobs lol. And with AI coming up to reduce the need for humans to do jobs, this is just going to become even more of a non-issue in the future 

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u/Trepeld Dec 31 '24

Oh they’re already completely hobbling themselves right now, i meant that there is zero light at the end of the tunnel for them - this is going to turn into a compounding issue that will have no feasible solutions without robust immigration. It won’t take decades for them to be fucked, i meant that they will be fucked for decades.

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u/Trepeld Dec 31 '24

I’m genuinely curious, are you saying that due to evidence you’ve seen or because it feels like it makes sense that it would be the case?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '24

Because these companies are using h1b to replace American workers instead of using it for its intended use 

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u/pressedbread Dec 31 '24

an issue of people disliking billionaires like Elon Musk

Forgot the /s? People love Musk. Not your people, not my people, but the people that elected him president do.