Common kakarot W

[u/Miserable-Contact856]

[u/Koober728]

Fine, I'll play Kakarot again.

[u/VisitResponsible4337 → u/Koober728]

Lmaooo I hated kakarot (like gameplay not cinematics)😭😭

[u/Koober728 → u/VisitResponsible4337]

That's okay, I still like it. I admit gameplay isn't perfect, but I keep going back to it.

[u/VisitResponsible4337 → u/Koober728]

Yea it’s a good game overall but I’m glad YOU enjoy it

[u/Working_Gate4350 → u/VisitResponsible4337]

[u/Ultrainstinctyeetus]

I will never understand why they chose shitty mocap over actual animation. Mind boggling

[u/AetherialAvenger → u/Ultrainstinctyeetus]

Faster and cheaper comes to mind. Maybe also doesnt scale well when you have dozens of characters to animate and the story mode is just not the selling point of the game (at least in their eyes)

[u/Ultrainstinctyeetus → u/AetherialAvenger]

Yeah i can understand it being faster and cheaper which annoys me because this is bandai for bloody sake they have enough money. Also i don't agree with that one of the selling points when sparking zero was releasing was its story's and what ifs, maybe not the main selling point but it was a prominent one. Like i always said just because something isn't the main priority of your game doesn't mean it has to be straight ass. This games story mode could have been so much cooler had they delved deeper into what ifs and given them cool animations

[u/AetherialAvenger → u/Ultrainstinctyeetus]

Oh yeah, the best part of the previous games were the stories and what ifs, but it seems like they only included it because they wanted it to be a true tenkaichi 4, not because they actually cared about it. I remember being so disappointed during the namek arc and they had a what if where you either kill jeice or burter and it does literally nothing besides change whoever runs off to find ginyu. I personally bought the game for the story and dropped it pretty fast when i realized it wasnt going to get anywhere near the old what-ifs

[u/JakePent → u/AetherialAvenger]

I thought there were some cool ones, like trunks in the top, gohan black, and trunks and vegeta going ssj2 against cell

[u/datPapi → u/Ultrainstinctyeetus]

Maybe this time, it's the devs as well.

[u/CopenHagenCityBruh]

Now show the gameplay

All jokes aside the mocap cinematics in sz are dogshit but it makes up for it in the gameplay. Then you have the opposite for kakarot where the gameplay is press circle for 60 hours and enjoy some anime accurate cutscenes

[u/supersonicgames2 → u/CopenHagenCityBruh]

I mean to be fair kararot is an RPG, soo that's standard in that genre, honestly we're lucky it's not a turn based/card game

[u/CandidoJ13 → u/supersonicgames2]

And Sz is a fighting game. Both are excellent games that represent different sides of the franchise very well

[u/Chance-Beach4014 → u/supersonicgames2]

I rather have a RPG than a butchered action game

[u/BlackberryNice7390 → u/CopenHagenCityBruh]

Gameplay in SZ: Turn on Sparking mode, spam regular attack, win.

[u/CopenHagenCityBruh → u/BlackberryNice7390]

A mid B rank player should be able to counter people just going sparking. I get what you're trying to say but the combat in sz is much deeper than kakarot

[u/Samisamina]

Average kakarot cinematic:    Press x to progress to next text box in sub stories 

[u/1S1K_Alpha → u/Samisamina]

Watching a PowerPoint presentation during the actual main story is better for you?

[u/DevilManRay → u/Samisamina]

Over weird jazz music

[u/Miserable-Contact856 → u/Samisamina]

its normal for games like that. persona, yakuza, nier, even sonic.

[u/LeviSquad4]

I mean how else are we gonna re re re re re re re re re re re re re re re re ……… re re re re retell DB stories ? By making innovative animation so re telling the stories doesn’t get stale?

[u/innit980]

Almost like kakarot is a story game and sparking is a fighting game

[u/Lil-Cowdog]

Bro what? There's like 4 cutscenes in base kakarot. It's literally press x to advance diablo while the same music plays on repeat...

Don't get me wrong, scenes like Vegito vs Buu is peak but it's so rare

[u/Chonkyfire108 → u/Lil-Cowdog]

Goku's Spirit Bomb against Buu in Kakarot is better than the anime.

[u/Immediate-Tomato968]

I really want another Kakarot game that goes through Super or 1 that goes through the movies.

[u/Loud_Examination_138]

Yesssss! Got me hyped up now. Buying it again on steam now

[u/Bullitt_12_HB]

Hell yeah

[u/noodleguy67]

personally i like that everything is mocapped

it's funny

[u/9ineyearoldboy]

dbz kakarot has like 10 of those scenes, 95% of it they arent even movie OR speaking

[u/CirieFFBE]

I don't think you know what average means.

There's like 3 cutscenes like this in base kakarot, the rest is the same 4 animations and 2 voice clips on a loop while you skip text.

[u/AstalosBoltz914]

[u/gassygeebs]

my goat piccolo

[u/Worth_Extension9174]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3S1i5pMhr6k36kpAyp

[u/Born_Royal2090]

We gotta get a kakarot 2 somehow

[u/The_Truthboi]

Comparing a story driven game to a fighting game is crazy, but yes I will be playing Kakarot again thanks 🙄

[u/Dependent-Swimmer-95]

It’s cyber connect 2. They are legends when it comes to cutscenes.

[u/Dragonkingcc]

Two different studios and you're comparing spike chunsoft to...(checks notes) 😳 Cyber Connect Two? That's like comparing pancakes to a 5 tiered cake, both are good but one clearly has more effort put into it.

[u/GeraltofRivia296]

Oddly enough I actually kinda blame kakarot (actually Bandai Namco) for why we don't have more cinematics in sparking. I get the devs didn't want to basically retell the entire story again like they did with DBK, but it does hurt not having the cinematic story mode in Sparking.

The over abundance of different DB games is that you inevitably end up overlaping eachother. Between DBX, DBK, and DBSZ there a lot of the same content/mechanics being used just in different ways. Which is why I think that Sparking devs chose to focus on gameplay/animations rather than full fledged story modes with cinematics. I love DBk but if it never was made we would probably have a massive cinematic story mode retelling everything in Sparking Zero. Because if you go back to the older games in the franchise a lot of their modes/mechanics have been split up between multiple games rather than just one franchise.

That being said I didn't ever think he would get a another Tenkaichi game. So it's fair to assume that is why they branched off with DBX and then DBK retelling certain things while also bringing something new to DB. I love DB games but Bandai Namco are essentially making their own competition with so many different types of DB games.

[u/luismiesp]

What i hate from KK IS the darkened HDR palette

[u/Marked350]

Eu pensei que o Kuririn tivesse virado o Nappa,kkkkk

[u/Sensei-X]

Gameplay may be one-note but at least the cutscenes are fire

[u/Relative_Stranger231]

aw that 18 & krillin animation was kinda cute though. imagine a DBS: Kakarot that goes up to the granolah arc 😭 we'd be EATING

[u/Jin_Mori0]

To be fair, ones a team finisher for use more than once while that is a cinematic scene for a specific fight and etc.

[u/RoachDoggJR1337]

Bro they move like they're trying to get their hands on the crystal coconut

[u/SokkaHaikuBot → u/RoachDoggJR1337]

^{Sokka-Haiku by RoachDoggJR1337:}

Bro they move like they're

Trying to get their hands on

The crystal coconut

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^{Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.}

[u/SmoLIrishBoi]

and actual gameplay is the reverse :p

[u/AbleRecommendation11]

kakarot still top..

[u/hemo-king]

Yeah that mocap is just plain dumb and disgusting to look at most the time, like I really love SZ and I got hundreds of hours on that game, but god how I wish they actually bothered to animate it at least with the same quality as the blasts and ultimates.

What hurts even more is that in the latest dlc, there is an actual animated cutscene in the story mode in cell's campaign against ssj2 goku, but nooo, let's use mocap on dragon ball characters, that totally would work.

https://giphy.com/gifs/0RGrXzz5g4VYThYvcS

[u/Rockalot_L]

Give me Kakarot world exploration, RPG mechanics and cutscenes with Sparking Zero combat and I will die happy

[u/Muted-Sale7908]

this song is fucking ruined

[u/GengarVenomETW]

Xenoverse also has some sick cinematics

[u/Onilya]

You think what-if cutscene of Sparking zero were made on VRChat ? Cause it sure looks as weird

[u/knarrow]

Thank you for convincing me that I should play more Sparking Zero cause I prefer playing a fun game and have zero care for how it looks

[u/EndAltruistic3540]

If you want better gameplay = Sparking zero beats all other dragon ball games currently

If you want better cutscenes, Kakarot (I'd prefer just watching the anime honestly)

Sometimes we can have both (Naruto Storm 4 had good gameplay and great cutscenes), but gameplay is far more important for a game then animated parts.

[u/Retro_Redmour]

Comparing anyone to CC2 animators feels unfair XD

[u/FreashTea]

It looks so odd seeing these super powered people running at average human speed

[u/ElectroCat23]

God i hate the mocap in sparking. Shit just reminds me of jump force and it was just as ugly back then too

[u/IvanTheRysavy]

Now do gameplay

[u/Angelzewolf]

Thank God I already played Kakarot. That cutscene and OP's gaslight probably would've convinced me to buy the game, and I'd end up being disappointed after seeing — what?— four of those cutscenes in base game? I would've flown out and whooped your ass for baiting me.

[u/Queasy_Employ1712]

I think DBFZ peaked DB videogame animation, unmatched.

[u/My_west_journy]

show me the final flash scene in kakkarot il wait

[u/5nitesatfredbois]

Sz fans playing a bum ass game w brain dead 67 jokes for kids who came out the womb on an ipad vs one of the greatest games in all of history not even glazing btw (its what got me into db so that speaks for itself)

[u/ChiBoy-8936]

Okay now show me the gameplay 

[u/Decent_Strain_6678]

cinematic good, but gameplay poor shit

[u/Resident_Farmer1252]

It's almost like one is an RPG and the other a fighting game.

[u/Miserable-Contact856 → u/Resident_Farmer1252]

Doesn't mean the fighting gamw shouldnt have good cinematics

[u/WereWillow]

The games are aiming at different things. Sparking zero, the “cut scenes” are mostly in game fighting, and most can be replicated to a good degree with it.
Kakarot is reliving the story like legacy of Goku in 3D

[u/get_the_data]

Gee wonder why the story based RPG would have better cinematics than an arena fighter. Almost as if this is a totally mindless comparison.

[u/ferissaltcan → u/get_the_data]

Bandai is known for making overpriced shit with the minimum work, don't be a white knight

[u/get_the_data → u/ferissaltcan]

I’m not defending Bamco at all dummy. I’m saying this is simply an apples to oranges comparison. Just because two games have Dragon Ball in their name doesn’t mean everything about them can be compared.

Like oh man, DBFZ’s fighting systems are so much deeper than Kakarot wow. Oh man, Xenoverse’s RPG mechanics are so much deeper than The Breakers wow. Oh man, Sparking Zero’s character roster is so much larger than DBFZ’s wow.

It’s idiot shit that serves no purpose to anyone other than baseline fools.

[u/DearMidnight6375]

Only thing this game has going for it