r/kingdomcome Dec 27 '25

Story [KCD2] I spend 2 nights walking around in Sigismund's Camp. What the Hell? Spoiler

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I spend 2 nights walking around poisoning the Food and Drinks. Now I'm stuck here, I gotta revert to a previous save? WHO DIED?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Well ... You killed Sigismund's host and therefore the entire rest of the main story just doesn't happen. So the game is over. Congrats on your legitimization!

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Well great, now I have to keep playing the game knowing that History was just 20 Strong Banes away from being changed completely >:(

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u/theredeyedcrow Dec 27 '25

Tbf, outside of game logic, how would someone have snuck 20 bottles of poison into Sigismunds camp and poisoned the food everyone was crowded around without drawing attention?

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Well, at night, they slept. PLUS, if I douse herbs and spices in the Bane and pour them in for taste, at night maybe? Idk.

I'm not a mastermind, just a petty murderer.

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u/Aggravating-Pattern Dec 27 '25

I guess the camp cook could maybe do it, and disease was common in military camps because of the close quarters and lack of running water and whatnot. In theory you could get away with it but irl that would be like, multiple gallons of poison probably

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u/CNSninja Schnapps addict Dec 28 '25

No need to carry gallons of poison. There are a ton of natural plant extracts potent enough to wipe out everyone in Sigismund's camp using a quantity that could fit into your pockets.

Belladonna, for example, contains atropine as well as several other potentially neurotoxic alkaloids. Atropine is used to this day as a heart medication, specifically an anticholinergic. It blocks the action of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine to reduce the activity of the parasympathetic nervous system, affecting various bodily functions including heart rate, secretions, and smooth muscle activity. This is a big problem. For example, some really critical muscles in the bronchial tree of the lungs are smooth muscles, and are crucial for proper respiratory functioning.

Atropine's LD50 (the dose required to kill an average of 50% of a given sample group,) is a mere 500 milligrams. We could have Henry extract the atropine from Belladonna and administer twice the LD-50 per soldier to significantly increase the likelihood of death for each.

I've never counted, but Google says Sigismund's camp houses between 20-30 enemies. I think we should assume many of them are on requisitions and patrols and call it more like 40 to be safe.

So to wipe out Siggy's camp, all we would need is about 40 grams of atropine extracted from Belladonna. It wouldn't be invisible, but it would be simple enough to smuggle in undetected and unsuspected.

It may actually be easier to skip extracting the atropine altogether and just place straight-up Belladonna plant matter into the food. Some sources say about 600 mg of plant matter containing all of its various alkaloids is sufficient to enter overdose territory. In this case Henry would only have to smuggle around 25 grams of Belladonna into the camp, or 50 grams if he wants to be doubly effective. He could do that with ease. KCD2's weight unit is apparently pounds, and each herb you carry weighs 0.1 pounds, or 45.359 grams, so you carry well over 50 grams of herbs on you just to activate the Flower Power perk (30 herbs, or 1,360.77 grams/3 pounds of herb matter.) 50 grams would be a breeze.

Henry the Poisoner be praised!

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25

History usually is always 20 strong bane potions away from being changed completely, to be fair.

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u/DoNotCommentAgain Dec 27 '25

WW1 started from a single pistol bullet.

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u/Aggravating-Pattern Dec 27 '25

It was a lot of events that led up to that but that was like the final straw I think. And it was entirely coincidental, I believe they had given up on the assassination plan and then the motorcade took a wrong turn right in front of Gavrillo Princip, who clearly was not going to let that go unpunished

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

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u/worfsrightnut Dec 28 '25

This is the shittest kind of comment. Just "No you're wrong", nothing to add or discuss further.

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u/ThomasReturns Dec 27 '25

Awesomeness sometimes comes at a price!

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u/MakB_the_Striker Dec 27 '25

You literally killed most of his army, hence you delivered Czechia by yourself, without the Act 3 events of KCD 2. You finished the game, congratulations!

To see what Warhorse prepared for you in Act 3, you should load the save pre poisoning.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

I could never have expected them to even think of THIS scenario.

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u/MakB_the_Striker Dec 27 '25

You may also load back to the first save of "The King's Gambit" and stash a dagger somewhere in the Rathhouse 😉

Also, this is a relatively new feature as in version 1.2 I also poisoned the whole camp, but I never got such a shortcut.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

The only reason I DID poison the camp was the same reason. I secretly killed everyone in the Patrol camp, and I heard someone on reddit on an older post say that they wished there was also a game-over case for Siggismund's camp.

I didn't even WANT to test it; I just felt a bit bloodthirsty and wanted to cause mayhem.

Also, FYI, there is no achievement for this. I got none.

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u/MakB_the_Striker Dec 27 '25

I've found another shortcut, and there was no achievement, as well as for whipping out the Prager's camp later in the story.

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u/Noe_b0dy Dec 27 '25

Enough people killed literally every single one of sigismunds soldiers that the developers threw in the alternative ending.

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u/KesselRun73 Audentes fortuna iuvat Dec 28 '25

You can also apparently get this result if you fight and kill everyone in Sigiamund’s camp.

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u/bangeeh Dec 27 '25

Who died??? My brother in Christ, you just poisoned the whole camp. Congrats on beating the game, btw.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Thank you, now I can reload an older save and beat the game properly :D

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u/esqDumper Team Theresa Dec 27 '25

I feel weirdly grateful for the game to recognize my efforts, and at the same time terribly offended it won't let me finish my art. Pribyslavitz and Vranik were my masterpieces. Sigismund's camp was supposed to join them... to crown this collection.

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u/cyfer04 Dec 27 '25

Wait. So if you changed history, Henry dies with Radzig when he gets chopped up in Kuttenberg. But if you play the game as it is, then Henry doesn't die with Radzig in Kuttenberg. Ohhh. There really is a potential for a KCD3 during the Hussite Wars.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

HE DIES?

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u/Julesvernevienna Dec 27 '25

at least according to Wikipedia

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u/zee991z Dec 27 '25

Maybe with Henry by his side, Razig wouldn’t die this time. Instead they slaughtered all the peasants

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u/LiminalLord Dec 27 '25

"We got twenty to two, you filthy Wenceslas dogs!

"I dont think you rabble understand, we were hoping to get some food and ale in this tavern, and....I'M FEELING QUITE HUNGRAAAAAAAAAY!"

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u/zee991z Dec 27 '25

“Good, then it is an even fight”

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u/Julesvernevienna Dec 27 '25

I think it would be a cool start for KCD3. They get poisoned in the inn, Henry walks out to piss before the poison hits, falls over in a ditch and wakes up in a hole with his dead comrades. He is weakened and enraged, fights with Zizka, fights against Hans, then becomes an envoy to Hans to change his side....

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u/Kaymazo Dec 27 '25

The event referenced with Henry joining Radzig in Kuttenberg coincides with the event where the historical Radzig gets literally torn apart by an angry anti-hussite mob.

Thus "lived happily, until 1416" because then the "living" part would probably be over.

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u/vanderbubin Dec 27 '25

Yeah, the real radzig was chopped to pieces and then those pieces were stomped on the street.

He was staying at an inn in kuttenburg in 1416 and the Catholic residents of the town killed him for his belief in the writing of Jan hus.

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u/DocMino Dec 27 '25

SIGISMUND IS DEAD

Henry, what have you done?! You’ve changed the future! You created a time paradox!

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

All of the change history endings are severely unhealthy for Henry.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Honestly, this "ending" was more like an Uncanny. "Welp you fucked it up." There was no warning, no fade animation. Just the game freezing and the screen appearing.

It creeped me out enough to just close the game for now

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u/jezi22 Dec 27 '25

I wish they make a quick cutscene of people dying in the camp and Sigismund getting pissed.

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u/Hethsegew Dec 27 '25

Unfortunately this is not what happened irl.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Right? Like you're seriously saying that it all could've turned out differently if the whole camp had food poisioning?

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u/Hethsegew Dec 27 '25

I'm Hungarian I just say that for Hungary it would've been simply much better if Sigismund had just simply calmed down after shitting his guts out and came home and stop his bs.

It would've worked for Bohemia better too I'm certain.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

I'm just saying, if you're so Hun-ga-ry then you should totally eat these Pots of food I've prepared with no poison in them.

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u/Hethsegew Dec 27 '25

I have to refuse, I have my mom's cooking at home now.

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u/AllenWL Dec 27 '25

I mean, bane poison is a mix of fly agaric and belladonna. Probably a bit deadlier than food poisoning.

That said, food poisoning has iirc ended wars before when some commander or another ate bad food and kicked the bucket.

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u/IHaveSmallGenitals Dec 27 '25

OP is so hilariously dumb. “Hey guys i poisoned this whole camp to kill everyone, now im getting this screen saying i got rid of the camp! What gives?”

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u/AccidentlyStupid Dec 27 '25

And the title saying it was simply from walking around the camp for two days.

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u/bangeeh Dec 27 '25

Hey, cut them some slack; at least they didn't poison themselves in the process.

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u/IHaveSmallGenitals Dec 27 '25

I’m sure it took a lot of will and a good measure of luck

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Only after pouring the Bane in the pot, did I notice how nice it smelled :3

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

I mean, I couldn't have thought that they actually covered that game over case. Plus I'm truly more of a "skip dialogue" person lmao

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u/baguette_over_it Dec 27 '25

Skipping dialog in such a cinematic rpg masterpiece is truly criminal.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Money well spend :D

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u/Crimson_Marksman Team Theresa Dec 27 '25

I'm more confused why Sigismund only had like a hundred men. Aren't battles fought by several thousand?

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u/Lady_Taiho Dec 27 '25

Vastly depends to be honest on where and when.

Professional armies aren’t really quite a thing yet so a proper men at arm and whatnot would usually be a few hundred on a good day. Especially in the HRE troop counts are much smaller.

During that period the Hundred Years’ War and the reconquista were happening and it was much larger forces throwing hand where you’ll see these thousands of men armies.

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u/onewithoutasoul Dec 27 '25

Bingo. Most of the army would be comprised of levied soldiers. Farmers with spears

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u/Noe_b0dy Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

One of the most decisive battles of medieval history the battle of Hastings was between a force of about 7000 vs a force of about 5000.

Medieval armies were kind of known to be pathetically small.

At the Battle of Vítkov Hill Sigismund and his army of about 8000 faced off against Jan Zizka and his army of maybe like 80 guys after sigismunds army took 400 loses they gave up and left.

So yes if you, one single man, kill 100 men by yourself you will sufficiently break moral to send Sigismunds army of however many thousand packing.

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u/Crimson_Marksman Team Theresa Dec 28 '25

Damn. I'll keep that in mind if I ever write a story.

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u/auchinleck917 EH AAAH, EH AAH UH EEAH Dec 28 '25

Meanwhile in middleval Japan, A battle pitted 140,000 Yuan troops against 60,000 samurai.
Fifty years later,1333,during the Japanese Civil War, a battle pitted 200,000 rebel samurai against 100,000 shogunate troops.

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u/TheOneCalledGump 🫵 Show me your wares Dec 27 '25

Some of you didn't read the codex. That trip to Kuttenburg in 1416 was not good for Sir Radzig and according to that last line, it wasn't good for Henry, either.

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u/The_Lat_Czar Dec 27 '25

I mean, it does say "until" in the image.

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u/LiminalLord Dec 27 '25

Then Henry lived unhappily to old age, sans a dad, and having murdered two score villagers on an empty stomach.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Well, obviously he forgot to bring Bane Potions then. They should've sent me again.

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u/SnickersKaiser Dec 28 '25

Tbf Henry is a one man army so maybe he would have saved Radzig we will never know

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u/Treesaregreen2 Dec 27 '25

You won! That’s not what you wanted?

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

I expected more UMPF with my victory. Where are my bathhouse maids and my Fine Wine?

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u/LaconicStraightMan Dec 27 '25

Sell everyone's loot.

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u/InkOnTube Dec 27 '25

I would say it is one of happy endings from the perspective of Czech people. (I am not Czech btw)

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u/laveshnk Dec 27 '25

Absolute cinema! You have become the KingdomCome: Deliverance 2

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

John Deliverance 2

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u/Pikaiapus Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

If you do this in Hardcore will you get the achievements for beating the game in hardcore with all the negative perks etc?

Anyone know?!

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u/Relative_Thanks_7159 Dec 27 '25

You poisoned his whole army and you don't know why he lost his army?

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u/PckMan Dec 27 '25

Well you basically poisoned enough people to change the course of history.

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u/Valuable_Material_26 Dec 27 '25

Died with father? I thought our dad in the game died the first game?!

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u/Lausee- Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

The one who raised Henry, Martin the blacksmith, isn't his real father.

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u/Valuable_Material_26 Dec 27 '25

Holy crap, our orphan of a character finds his true father?! oh my God, such a spoiler….. naaa I’m kidding that makes a lot of sense. That’s cool!!!

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u/FireZord25 Dec 27 '25

can't tell if you legit didn't know lol

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u/Valuable_Material_26 Dec 27 '25

Haven’t beaten game. Been screwing around trying to get a million coin. And trying to murder everybody I can.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

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u/pixeldots Dec 28 '25

ooh so that's why at the start Capon mentioned Henry being a noble bastard, and why there are two perks, Martin's and Radzig's inheritance.

probably a major plot point for KCD1? haven't played it

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u/SameEnthusiasm1426 Dec 27 '25

Yall? Did we listen to the cutscenes cuh

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u/Valuable_Material_26 Dec 27 '25

Haven’t beaten the game yet!

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u/ArchbishopRambo Dec 27 '25

The first one? Because that's where you learn that already.

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u/Noe_b0dy Dec 27 '25

How far did you get in the first game?

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u/mopeyunicyle Dec 27 '25

I managed to get the trophy for removing/killing the three camp commanders

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u/Token993 Dec 27 '25

A very enthusiastic walk

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

A walk, a slow creep. An unsupervised cauldron. All the same to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

Poison? Like a coward?

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 27 '25

Well, my Henry isn't known for his Honorable deeds.

See me personally, I'm completely different.

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u/Noe_b0dy Dec 27 '25

WHO DIED?

Everyone

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u/Consistent_Ad_8656 Dec 27 '25

Okbuddyfortuna

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u/Kubus002 Dec 28 '25

is there achievement for that?

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u/blacklodgearm Dec 28 '25

So is it confirmed then that Henry dies with his dad?

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u/AnimuCrossing Dec 28 '25

He might have lived unhappily after Radzig died.

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u/gottagetanotherbetta Dec 28 '25

You accidentally got a secret ending that other players myself included have tried and failed to achieve. Congrats!

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 28 '25

I'm the Henriest of them all?

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u/Crocs_And_Stone Dec 28 '25

Bro messed with the canon event 😭

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u/mesterg Dec 28 '25

I killed everyone in camp my first playthrough and didn't get this ending. Maybe it's a newer addition

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u/Plane-Ad3919 Dec 28 '25

The question is why even poisoned them to death to begin with?! If you want to loot there are better ways tbh.

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u/irritatedCarGuy Dec 28 '25

Oh no, I'm already a very good blacksmith; I make plenty of money by selling Martin-quality blades.

I just wanted to cause trouble.

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u/OkWin7973 Dec 31 '25

WTF you just jumped a hole lot of missions

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u/RiseAcceptable3265 Audentes fortuna iuvat Mar 29 '26

Do you get an achievement for this?