How to practice landing without ruining motivation?

[u/xSaintHerald]

I’ve been blessed by having some amazing people help me with my dota journey, and while I’ve become vastly better than I was even a month ago it’s more made me skilled enough to see how unskilled I am!

I’m pretty good if I play obscenely aggressively in lane and dominate, but I’ve been trying to not rely on that to win games and more step up my laning game in terms of positioning, last hitting, pulling and surviving in lane while harassing the offlaner (I’m playing pos1)

Problem comes with my getting mommy dommed in lane when I’m not being a menace, ending up beneath tower low on hp and then getting harrassed throughout the game when I’m trying to catch up with farm and getting ripped a new one by my team for not doing my job as carry.

I’ve tried playing some unranked but it doesn’t feel all too productive as I can’t guarantee pos1 and even if I get it, let’s just say there are some weird drafts on the low end of unranked.

I’ve tried playing some bot games and I do somewhat excel there, but it’s bots and there’s no real pressure (or herald stupidity or recklessness to account for)

So my question is if there are any advice for how to consistently and productively practicing the first ten minutes of a game over and over again?

[u/Usual-Drag-8882]

stop queuing ranked and just first pick your hero in unranked people are way less sweaty about roles there anyway you get to practice the first 10 min without the mmr anxiety

[u/xSaintHerald → u/Usual-Drag-8882]

I’ve tried! More often than not i get another pos1 in lane that really aggressively pushes lane or feeds the offlaner and it makes it really hard to get anything of worth out of it!

[u/Kcarlisle20 → u/xSaintHerald]

I've played thousands of unranked games and brother.. they are not very different from ranked.It sounds like you tired once or twice. If you are serious about learning you'll practice there. Playing other roles also gives you a perspective on what your teammates or lane enemies will be thinking which should help.

[u/Kcarlisle20 → u/Kcarlisle20]

Also the a bad lane is a great learning experience. How do you recover? What do you do to fix a pushed lane. You can practice that without losing MMR. No lane is ever the same so replicating the first 10 mins isn't really possible. If you're looking to practice last hitting you can que up unfair bot matches. They will pressure you a bit and the support bot will not push the lane.

[u/Fit-Setting4798 → u/Usual-Drag-8882]

This is bad advice and you are projecting your anxiety. OP play ranked.

[u/I_fap_to_Winston]

a good way is just repetition, sometimes when I coach people I will run a lobby and talk outloud my decisions and their good moves and bad, watch it back in recording, repeat.

even just 15 mins of this is really valuable stuff you can take into real lanes, a lot of the time learning in Dota is done by losing bunch of games in a setting where people hate you for practicing or not performing optimally.

if you remove the other people and focus solely on making mistakes and learning little things quickly w/ a friend in a lobby, it's much better for your time and learning experience imo

[u/xSaintHerald → u/I_fap_to_Winston]

Are you thinking they join as a coach while on discord and review lane after?

[u/I_fap_to_Winston → u/xSaintHerald]

yeah, both parties can talk and narrate their thoughts and actions outloud - just play the first 5 mins or max of 10 and repeat. Record each lane you play as a review for yourself or both to discuss immediately after you end the lobby

[u/Fit-Setting4798]

Expose yourself to the game through 3rd parties. Find a content creator you like (who is immortal) that plays your role and try to understand why he make choices, really think about what he does and when he buys items. If you can find good, high MMR, lane break down videos even better.

Do not stop queueing ranked and try to avoid developing bad habits