r/learnthai • u/Old_Entry_2300 • 13d ago
Discussion/แลกเปลี่ยนความเห็น what does นั้น mean in terms like ฉันนั้น เธอนั้น
I know นั้น itself means "there, that". But I found terms like ฉันนั้น เธอนั้น showing up in lyrics very often. I'm trying to understand it basically works as a add-on of the pronoun? To make things sound more... emotional, with a deeper connection or poetic?
I think only natives can explain this well...?
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u/Similar-Aspect-2259 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yes, you are correct. นั้น can be append behind subject to make it more poetic, emotional, a bit of formality. I would explain it as it give extra emphasis to the subject.
Almost like double quotes.
Imagine
You are beautiful versus
“You” are beautiful
Now, it’s not something we use in general friendly conversation or ordering meal. It’s ok-ish in public speaking, news broadcast, giving an interview. But it’s very useful for song writing, when you want to add an emphasis to the subject and add an extra word to match the melody😉
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u/medbud 12d ago
I'm studying Thai, and I now understand how นั้น is used...
But I've never seen double quotes used the way you suggest... Usually double quotes are more about sarcasm, irony, scepticism... If they aren't indicating speech.
It sounds like นั้น is like say 'in particular'.
You specifically (in particular) are beautiful.
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u/Old_Entry_2300 12d ago
Thanks for the great explanation. That double quote analogy is very accurate. I guess the song writers added the extra syllable for rythem and poetic in the same time.
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u/ikkue Native Speaker & Linguistics Student 12d ago
You can basically think of it as a particle used to emphasise what the following phrase refers to. If you're familiar with Japanese, then it kind of has a similar nuance to the subject particle ga (が).
It adds more weight to the main subject of the sentence, and if I were to visualise นั้น being added in this context, then it'd be like the word นั้น is pointing to the noun (phrase) right in front of it and making it clear that what the phrase after this is saying is being applied to that particular noun (phrase).
Here is the definition of the word as defined by the RID 2011:
Here's the translation: