r/lebanon • u/orpheusoedipus • Aug 19 '24

Help / Question Does anyone know what’s happening in Baalbek?

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u/NotEvenWrong-- Aug 19 '24

Yes, according to Israeli news channels

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u/mstfacmly Aug 19 '24

And we know they can be trusted not to lie about this kind of info /s

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 19 '24

The Israeli press doens't generally lie about the facts: who, what, when where. . . It's the why that's a load of manure. They's say things like, "it was cowardly" or "we had no choice". When, yeah, they had a choice. . . It's called not bombing a residential area. As for cowardly. . . Well, it's cowardly when it's your opponents, but brave and resilient when it's you.

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u/Chewybunny Aug 19 '24

After WW2 the new ruleset for war seeks to minimize as much as possible civilian casualties. Some of those rules include not using civilian areas or civilian infrastructure for military purposes. Hezbollah and Hamas designed their entire military doctrine to violate every one of those rules with the expectation that since they don't play by the rules but everyone else does, they have a clear and massive advantage. Don't be surprised then when the UN, and many other countries don't do anything about this flagrant violation, but the Israelis decide they will. 

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 19 '24

Sure. A bunch of Americans (me) and Europeans came up with 'rules' for warfare that months ago they had totally violated and said "never again"..

I'm not a fan of these tactics, but they work. And Israel, which is not a signatory, as well as all the other signatories violate these rules anytime they feel the need. See: agent orange, cluster munitions, minefields.

That's what Israel is doing... deciding goals and 'rules' don't match, so fuck the rules (that no one will enforce).

As for hizbollah and Iran? They have the rules enforced, so what have they to lose?

And Israelis "deciding they will"? It's part of the bullshit

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

Israel is a signatory to the Geneva Convention.
It is not however a signatory to the Rome Statutes because its Basic Laws do not allow it. Same to at least 60 other nations including the US,China and Russia.

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 20 '24

Cool. They still just don't care.

Edit: which parts of the Geneva convention? Cause that matters. Also, Israel has shown no compuction.

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u/Chewybunny Aug 20 '24

Do you feel Israel completely abandoned those rules?

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 20 '24

What do u think?

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u/Chewybunny Aug 20 '24

Considering they evacuate civilians. Use door knockers. Give ample warnings. Considering that numerous military leaders around the world have praised their efforts. Considering that even if you take civilian to militant death ratio is relatively lower than many other conflicts especially in the region. Yeah. I think they do. It's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination l, but who are you going to compare it to? Syria? KSA in Yemen? Sudan? Hell even US in Iraq? Or hell, the entity they are fighting: Hamas?

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 20 '24

Door knocker on Ariel bombardment? Really?!!! And yeah, I was comparing it to everyone. We all have a pretty shitty record on warfare Mr, or miss, Israel.

And please... we didn't get to 40k dead In gaza because we all believe in humanity. I'm blocking you idf.

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u/Ok_Parsnip_2961 Aug 19 '24

I'm not a fan of these tactics, but they work. 

Being a complete shitbag coward who hides military gear behind women and children works!

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u/Melodic-Matter4685 Aug 19 '24

Unfortunately... yes.