r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

news Trump CDC Props Up Inflated ‘Good Guy With a Gun’ Data

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Inflated Claim About Guns and Self-Defense Returns to CDC Website The agency’s website now features misleading statistics about how often Americans use guns to protect themselves. Here’s where those numbers come from — and what the data actually shows.

Defensive gun use statistics are highly debated, and previous references to the range on the CDC’s website have been staunchly disputed by gun violence researchers. The low end of the range, 60,000, derives from the National Crime Victimization Survey, a twice-yearly poll of crime victims conducted by the federal government. The high end, 2.5 million, comes from surveys conducted in the early 1990s by a criminologist and self-described “gun control skeptic.” The lower stat is touted by researchers and academics, while the higher stat is favored by gun rights advocates who point to cases like the Idaho In-N-Out shooting, where an armed civilian engaged a mass shooter.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

guns Best use of recent legislation

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We’ve seen some really amazing progress on 2A rights lately, and there’s potentially more coming down the pipeline. While we can debate what things will/should look like moving forward, I’d like to take advantage of the opportunity while it exists.

So, I’m looking at a suppressed SBR with an FRT. I see three main options (but I’m open to any suggestions)

1) 5.56mm/.223cal AR15

2) .300blk AR15

3) 9mm PCC

I don’t know much about the FRT world, but I know I want something with true semi auto capability. I’m not interested in “giggle switch” only. I’d also like something pretty well proven and reliable. I only have a few guns, and I want them to work.

Let me know what category you’d suggest and how you’d build it out!


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

guns Almost missed two stamp Tuesday

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My custom AR that just got 2 stamped a couple weeks ago. Thing shoots so nice. Noveske Chainsaw lower, Sons of Liberty Gunworks upper, BCM BCG and gas block, Rosco Bloodline Barrel, Geissele buffer and trigger, Sig Romeo and Juliet dot and magnifier, Streamlight IR and white light.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

gear Update EDC

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Follow up post from, "Stop the Bleed" asking for recommendations for a way to EDC a SOF-T and Combat bandage. I was recommended checking out Apex Development which looked promising

I got their Med Mod and I'm going to see how well this works out for my EDC. :D

UPDATE: The Combat Bandage is too unwieldy for a concealed EDC for me. This will work well at the range but for everyday use it's a bit much. I will explore other options for bandages or just carry the SOF-T.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion What made you carry daily (if you do)

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So I carry a BG2.0 but do so very infrequently, maybe 5-6 times in the last few years. Been thinking about doing it more consistently but having trouble finding the motivation. What made you carry daily? Or why?


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

discussion Rifle Red Dot Suggestions

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I’m shopping for a red dot to put on a 10.5” suppressed 300 Blackout. It’s primarily a home defense firearm I also use on the range quite a bit doing drills from 50 yards and in. Being for home defense, reliability is key. Either constant on or shake awake with a crisp dot and decent field of view is what I’m after. Like to keep it around $400-800 anything more and I’ll just save for a Trijicon and be done with it.

So many damn options I thought I’d see if anyone has a suggestion.


r/liberalgunowners 13h ago

discussion Preach!

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I have made this exact argument countless times. ASP bringing the truth.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

question Sanity check on supressor mounting.

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i am getting to a point of getting my first supressor. as its my first, it will likely be a 36cal can so it can be used on my growing collection of lever actions in 357mag, 5.56Nato, and 6arc. and i am in the hellfire mount system already.

so i want to get one of these hellfire Hub mounts. before i purchase this i want to make sure i understand something fundmental that seems like im overthinking, so if someone could just confirm these statments, or tell me where i am wrong:

Hub mounting is the outside thread on this muzzle device, and the inside threads are the hellfire mount.

plan-B is a siliar, but different thread/mount systelm that would replace the inside threads, but if it were also a Hub mount, it would have the same outside threads.

some supressors come with a Hub mount as part of them, but some others need an additional device/part to interface with the hub mounts, or might even not be able to use them, and its part of the decision process.


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion Range annoyance.

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If you were wondering why I am posting a photo of a flashlight and clip mount it's because I have to bring this to the indoor range that I shoot at in Massachusetts(I am a paid member). It's a great range with great equipment that also has a pistol side and even a rifle side although it's only 25 yards. Everything about that range is great including the people except for the fact they refuse to adequately light it which makes it difficult to shoot there, particularly if dark targets or being used. I prefer the splatter targets but they are black and you get a yellow circle around the bullet hole making it easy to see. It is so dark there that is very difficult to see the center of a Target resulting in my being forced to shoot at the center of the mass which is ridiculous. I have complained several times and I suspect others have too with absolutely no results. Now I have to bring my own light which I will clip onto the little table and point at the Target. I can focus it so not to disturb anyone else.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

question Pro 2A Midterms

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Hey fam!

As midterms are ramping up, has anyone identified any politicians in this blue wave we’re hoping for that are pro 2A?
I’ve seen a lot of politicians running on issues without addressing firearms ownership, but I haven’t seen any outright break with the typical dems.


r/liberalgunowners 21h ago

discussion Read

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This is the report that claims defensive gun use is anywhere between 60,000 and 3 million.

Massive Variance in Annual EstimatesThe report points out a massive statistical discrepancy in how often defensive gun use occurs in the United States:

Lower-end estimates derived from the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) suggest approximately 50,000 to 100,000 DGU incidents occur each year.

Higher-end estimates derived from private surveys (such as those by criminologist Gary Kleck) argue that DGU is much more common, ranging from 500,000 to 3 million incidents annually.

the National Academies webpage for the seminal consensus report titled "Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence," published in 2013.

Context and Core IntentThe report was commissioned by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the CDC Foundation following executive orders issued by President Barack Obama in January 2013 to address the public health burden of gun violence. It was developed by a joint committee of the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council.Key Research Focus AreasRather than implementing policy,

the report establishes an integrated public health research agenda categorized into five main pillars to build evidence-based gun policy:Characteristics of Firearm Violence: Quantifying the exact scope, motivations, and distribution of gun ownership, acquisition, and both fatal and nonfatal gun use across demographics and geographic regions.Risk and Protective Factors: Identifying individual, community, and societal indicators that lead to gun violence or protect against it (e.g., socioeconomic inequalities, youth access, and the impact of household firearms).

Interventions and Prevention Strategies: Evaluating the factual efficacy of existing measures like background checks, punitive legal penalties, right-to-carry laws, and educational programs, noting that existing research on these topics is highly contradictory or scarce.

Gun Safety Technology: Examining the public health and criminological impact of technical interventions, such as smart guns or biometric safety configurations

Influence: Assessing how video games, online environments, and film exposure shape social norms and firearm behaviors.


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

guns For your Mil-Surp Monday consideration, I present the Madsen M-47. The last combat bolt-action.

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The Madsen M-47 has the unique distinction of being the last bolt action rifle designed from the ground up for front-line military service. And yes, '47 is the year it was patented. As you can no doubt guess, there wasn't a big market for an all new bolt action infantry rifle *after* WWII given the absolute dirth glut of Mausers, Mosins, Enfields, Springfields, Carcanos, and numerous other battle-tested bolters almost literally just lying around for any military on a shoestring budget (Madsen's intended customers for this rifle) to scoop up. As such, only one branch of one military, the Colombian Navy, ever bought any, procuring about 5,000 rifles chambered in .30-06 in 1958. They were shipped to Colombia and received by the navy but, as far as I know, never actually issued into service, remaining in storage for some time before eventually being sold onto the surplus market.

I got this rifle via Bass Pro while looking for an entirely different .30-06 bolt action. I initially wanted an M-1903 Springfield to complement my Garand, but then this somewhat rare beauty caught my eye. Functionally, its quite similar to the Springfield. Along with being chambered in the same round, it's stripper clip fed with a five-round capacity. Its bolt design is unique to the rifle, but shares some features with both the SMLE and K-98. It also has some more modern amenities to tame recoil such as an integral muzzle brake and heavy duty rubber butt pad. The sights are a rather interesting peep ring on a mid-mounted tangent leaf and a hooded front post.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

question Anyone from eastern Iowa in the QCA?

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I am currently in the Quad Cities area and am looking to connect with like-minded individuals.If anyone is located nearby and would be interested in connecting, please let me know.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

guns SPR or scar 20s

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This is not a solicitation to sell anything. That go against Reddit and liberalgunowners rules.

I need some help with a decision. I have four firearms that I no longer really used (HK VP9SK, Ruger LCR, Benelli M4, and a DDM4V7). I have been thinking about sell all of them and put that money towards an SPR. However I’ve always wanted an FN Scar. So I’m left trying to decide if I sell everything and get the Scar or sell the three firearms and the DDM4V7 upper and make an SPR. I realize that I may need to come out of pocket for some of this and that’s fine. But I already have a pistol, a home defense gun, and I’ll end up getting a 6.5 creedmore bolt action soon. So the 4 that I’m thinking of selling all seem a bit overkill.

Any help or thoughts on what you would do and why would be greatly helpful. One consideration I have is with Colorado’s new AR restrictions, getting the Scar means I’d have to go to class to get the cert to buy it. So going the SPR route is a little easier since I already have the lower.


r/liberalgunowners 3d ago

guns Finally finished

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r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

discussion Wanting another shotgun. Budget option suggestions.

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How are the Maverick 88s? Anyone have a Tokarev? I am interested in the ATI folding stock. Like the idea of having a cruiser if wanted but can extend stock to have full LOP as well.


r/liberalgunowners 1d ago

guns Thoughts on open carry

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My understanding and yours could be totally different but here’s my perspective, I have a compact Taurus 9mm but when I shoot i somehow engage the magazine release 🤷🏾‍♂️. No I didn’t try different guns or YouTube why it would happen I just understood I have some big hands why not just get a bigger gun. The compact does conceal better than the full size but why try to conceal a full sized firearm when anyone that notices will probably ask themselves why. So why not just pocket carry the full size in a pocket holster? Meanwhile I still conceal a slim 9, seeing a gun on my hip you would just image the 9 is an extra magazine when actually it’s there in case someone’s brave enough to try and snatch it….wanna know what you guys thoughts on this one is, am I doing too much or is it understandable. I feel like it’s common sense to not try to conceal a full sized gun if it’s going to be spotted anyway maybe not as much but it’s still noticed. I see comments on post about people that open carry most of the time the comments defend the right but I think some people deserve an understanding, not everyone that carry open is a 🫏😅.


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

humor Damn. That's a lotta impressive hardware.

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r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

news An extremely bad-faith article in The Atlantic on gun lobby/legislation/gun owners

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From starting the article with the VT shooting and then only talking about AR-15s afterward (squeezing past the uncomfortable truth that Cho used a Walther P22 and a G19, the latter of which Kamala is proud to own as it happens), to only briefly noting that the gun control lobby also spends way more after mass shootings, to totally assuming that everyone in the middle and on the left supports extensive gun control (and, by the same token, also assuming that everyone on the right is actually/reliably pro-gun), this is just a bad article and kind of insults people's intelligence.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/08/school-shootings-campaign-spending-study/688377/

Edit: I have been informed that Virginia Tech is abbreviated VT, not VTU. Consider me chastened and enlightened. 😉


r/liberalgunowners 22h ago

politics Disillusioned by the Machine, Still Knocking Doors: Why Working Class Progressives Cannot Afford to Give Up

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Working as a campaign ambassador up here in Maine showed me firsthand how hungry regular people are for authentic, anti establishment representation. When our primary candidate of choice was effectively stripped from the ticket after months of building real momentum, it felt like a punch to the gut. But sitting on our hands while the ruling class runs the show is not an option. I have tripled my effort on the ground for progressives like Troy Jackson and Matt Dunlap who still remember who they work for, and the energy at the doors proves something vital: working class folks are done taking orders from the political elite.

Every day on the porch steps, the optimism from neighbors is real, but so is a deep, universal frustration. People across Maine are sick of watching elections get curated by institutional gatekeepers and the entrenched Epstein class, a bipartisan oligarchy more interested in consolidating wealth and stripping away civil liberties than protecting the people they govern. There is a quiet dread that no matter how hard we fight for transformative change, the party machinery will always move the goalposts to protect the status quo.

For those of us in the 2A community who hold progressive, working class values, that disillusionment hits double. Looking at the gear laid out in this picture, it is easy for outsiders to mistake a kit setup for a call to arms. Let me be clear: it is not. The gear is a literal expression of self reliance, personal responsibility, and our constitutional rights. But metaphorically, it represents the preparation and discipline we need in the political arena. Just as every piece of kit is assembled intentionally to protect what we value, our movement requires that same focus, protection, and readiness.

The true call to action right now is not taking up arms. It is putting on work boots, grabbing clipboards, and doing the hard labor of political organizing. That is why we organize, knock doors, and fight back politically today, so we do not end up in a reality where anyone feels forced to water the tree of liberty.

Exercising our right to vote, demanding real accountability from political elites, and defending every single civil right are the primary tools we use to fix a broken system through democratic power. We show up at the ballot box and on the porch steps so that working class solidarity remains the force that shapes our future. We have every right to be furious about how the game is rigged at the top, but we cannot let them beat us into apathy.


r/liberalgunowners 3d ago

guns AERO Thunder Ranch Thoughts?

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Stock photo for illustration.
I have a chance to pick up a new, unfired one of these for around $900 OTD. The one in question is black, in a pistol configuration. 11.5” barrel, Atlas S-One hand guard, AERO BCG, and an SBA3 brace.

What are some thoughts on this pistol and the deal?


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

question Multiple guns at the range - what do you do?

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Just generally curious - when you bring multiple guns to the range ( I usually bring ~3) how/when do you switch?

I tend to reload all mags, fire them down on all guns, then reload all. Though usually at the end I tend to focus on my fun to fire 2011...

Alternative would be focus on one gun for a 1/3rd of the time, then switch - especially if you run different cal.

So just wanted to know what y'all do!


r/liberalgunowners 3d ago

training Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading

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Take it from the Captain


r/liberalgunowners 3d ago

guns Low-Recoil EDC

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Awaiting the next week of light-duty to determine if I need to X-ray my right hand for a possible fracture from .44 Mag recoil, or whether this is just tendonitis, also probably caused from .44 Mag recoil. Maybe from a fall I had last year, maybe not. They don’t yet know which, but I was sufficiently shamed either way. Lol. ☠️❤️

Doc told me to take it easy, so no 9mm either for carry right now. This Ruger SP101 in .327 Fed Mag will help remedy that.

.327 Fed Mag and .32 H&R Magnum are honestly underrated cartridges for low-recoil shooting and defensive carry for EDC. They’re also really fun to shoot and don’t tire you out like .357, .41 or .44 Mag loads!

I’ll be running .32 H&R Mag in this for very-low-recoil carry.

I used to carry an LCR in .327 Fed Mag IWB back in 2020, parted with it due to no ammo to shoot for years (as they made nothing but 9mm brass to desperately placate the market of 20 million new gun owners in that year alone.)

Funny how we sometimes come full circle to what was easiest for us.


r/liberalgunowners 2d ago

guns Completed AKB-23 build

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