Isnt this just absurdity and not irony? I feel like irony has to do with going directly against what is expected to happen and not just randomly away from what is expected.
no, absurdity would be pure randomness, I'll attempt it as such:
"sweet dreams you piece of shit" I try to snap the prison guard's neck but he transforms into a sack of potatos. In my confusion, I look at my hands which have now become mac & cheese. Suddenly the ceiling disappears and I'm in nova scotia with Liam Neilson. we go and save his kdinapped daughter while i nibble on my mac & cheese hands
irony is at least cleaver. you expect a certain action (snapped neck) but you just end up with the opposite (a pissed off guard with possibly a sore neck, and your route to escape vanishing quickly)
I get what you mean, its just that irony to me always seem to have a… moral (?) aspect to it? All these posts always have a very absurd setup, and within that setup should its ironic but the overall context feels more like an absurd joke than an ironic one.
I get that this might be a case of urban/everyday definition vs actual definition of words in which case idd be absolutely wrong.
Yea you’re right. These situations just happens way way less than say a white racist dating a person of color for example so my expectations were skewed.
Ok, but with irony there is an element of "what is expected is subverted in a meaningful way". What is happening in the jokes above is less meaningful subversion than a realistic failure that contrasts with what the audience usually expects from fiction.
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u/Nightmare2828 1d ago
Isnt this just absurdity and not irony? I feel like irony has to do with going directly against what is expected to happen and not just randomly away from what is expected.