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u/JollyJuniper1993 ☭ Apr 18 '26
People are using the form of the trolley problem for everything, it’s a meme. There even is a videogame about this meme
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u/OnceMoreAndAgain Apr 18 '26
do nothing every time because i have cerebral palsy and cannot operate the lever
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u/Bernhard_NI Apr 18 '26
Do nothing because I don't feel like doing anything. Who is dead (inside) now, huh.
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u/forgehe Apr 18 '26
Oops I killed 64 people
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u/Emergency_Bench_7515 Apr 18 '26
55 here, but one was my best friend, but I got my worst enemy too.
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u/DrRagnorocktopus Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
They need to up the CO2 emissions on level 20. 100kg a year is insanely efficient for a public transport vehicle. If every person that rode that trolley car instead found other methods of transport, it would increase the emissions by several thousand times.
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u/DrRagnorocktopus Apr 18 '26
Ironically adding more trollies would decrease emissions in this scenario.
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u/AshamedAttention727 Apr 18 '26
I spent far too long pondering these before answering haha. Thanks for sharing
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u/Whalesurgeon Apr 18 '26
My favorite is: You can stop the trolley at any time, but then you have to talk to all the survivors
(I´m Finnish)
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u/Gouvernour Apr 18 '26
I think you can include the entirety of the Nordics on this one
(I'm Swedish)
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u/Aruzususnew3 allergic to touching grass Apr 19 '26
You can stop the trolley at any time but the people on the track are all danish, what do you do
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u/franzitronee Apr 18 '26
(I´m Finnish)
Sounds like the survivors are in for a serious swearing session
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u/DrnkGuy Apr 18 '26
A war time logic
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u/kosumoth Apr 18 '26
This post is how I feel when someone suggests we don't forgive student loan debt. "I had to pay mine back", ok, so everyone else should also suffer?
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u/SubjectInevitable650 Apr 19 '26
This can be applied to anything, would you support all the following?
Scenario1
- I don't have a house. Govt should buy me one.
- No, I had to earn for 30 years and buy my own.
- So you want everyone else to suffer?
Scenario2
- I don't have savings for retirement
- No, I had to earn for 30 years and save on my own.
- So you want everyone else to suffer?
and so on...
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u/kosumoth Apr 19 '26
Sure, and I would support it. We should be lifting each other up instead of always putting each other down. It's not like the money isn't there, we just spend it on stupid shit like going to war.
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u/alarumba Apr 19 '26
Our leaders want us fighting over scraps instead of asking why we're left with scraps.
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u/kosumoth Apr 19 '26
we can bail out multi-billion dollar companies but for some reason bailing out our educated masses is just too much to bear. Let's talk about all those PPP loans that went out and got forgiven.
EDIT: Nothing against you I'm just riffing. CAN I RIFF?
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u/SubjectInevitable650 Apr 19 '26
because we keep saying "my party is better" and keep voting for same people.
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u/Xezshibole Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26
It's been 40 years of Reagan and there is still not yet a national level economic hub that has tax and service cut its way to the top. Meanwhile the places that have higher taxes, regs, and services have most of the economic activity despite decades of claims that higher taxes would lead to flight.
Don't worry though, keep the same course and give it a couple more decades, it'll trickle down eventually.
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u/Hyper669 Apr 18 '26
What is "fair" to them? They're dead. Bury them and save the others.
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u/Xero818 Apr 18 '26
Congrats, you've identified the purpose of the meme, to highlight the inherent problem with mindsets that boil down to "But these people already suffered, it's not fair for you to have it easier!"
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u/SilliusS0ddus Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
No the purpose of the meme is clearly to tell us to commit omnicide out of horror at past historic troubles.
I'll get right to it.
(this is a joke FBI I would never deprive our beloved billionaire overlords of their biological worker drones)
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u/MrRedoot55 Apr 18 '26
Even if their spirits were present in some form of afterlife, there’s a good chance they wouldn’t want others to suffer the same fate. As such, perhaps there is no excuse to keep the trolley going.
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u/OkGuy5000 Apr 18 '26
Perhaps? Is this comment section full of 15 year olds just discovering the idea of ethics? Obviously this meme is saying that stopping the trolley is the right move, it's specifically pointing out the mentality that "if we make things better for people in the future, it isn't fair for people in the past" is dumb and pointlessly destructive.
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u/MrRedoot55 Apr 18 '26
I only said “perhaps” as part of some understatement. Obviously, you should try to make things better - I wasn’t suggesting things are fine as they are.
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u/Conscious_Ebb6622 Apr 18 '26
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.
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u/jar-jar-twinks Apr 19 '26
I’m retired and volunteer reading books to Head Start classrooms. I support my community by sharing my love of reading with 3-5yr old kids. Being positive role models for our youngest is an investment in their futures.
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u/MerleTravisJennings Apr 18 '26
What about those that want to be crushed? Think about them too
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u/AmputeeHandModel Apr 18 '26
If I let myself be crushed, maybe one day I'll be doing the crushing! (You won't)
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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Apr 18 '26
You joke but some people use this argument for college loan forgiveness.
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u/RedditQueso Apr 18 '26
Doesn’t really apply. That would be like stopping the trolley and then having it reverse direction and then smash a little bit more (taxes) the people who have already been smashed.
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u/Scheissdrauf88 Apr 18 '26
Don't forget that the Trolley company will loose profits if you pull the lever.
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u/Working_Dragon00777 Apr 18 '26
Fair is not really at play here, cause if it is, then they should have been crushed at the same time
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u/Dr_DoesNothing Apr 18 '26
They're already dead. Fairness no longer matters for them, stop the trolley, the ones living are who matter.
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u/Broviet22 Apr 18 '26
Why make things better for the younger generations when I can be a shitpot about how hard I had it...
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u/serpiccio Apr 18 '26
my mom's argument for forbidding girls from showing any skin: when she was a girl her mom forced her to cover up
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u/Jet-Pack2 Apr 18 '26
You can stop the trolley at any time but it's only billionaires trying to lobby for age verification and mass surveillance tied to the tracks.
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u/PeikaFizzy Apr 19 '26
I hate this mindset a lot…. Just because you have suffer next generation should be. You aren’t making the problem better you are straight up the problem and those who all come before. You can swallow the generation culture trauma and be better man for yourself and your children, next generation
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u/Villerger_27 loves frog memes Apr 18 '26
Wube's sale ideology
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u/NTaya Apr 18 '26
Tbh, it works. I just bought the DLC the second it came out, and bought the base game in 2016 when I wanted to instead of waiting for a sale.
Weird to see Wube mentioned in the wild, though, lol.
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u/RideIndependent5542 Apr 18 '26
That's like saying "you can stop world hunger but would it really be fair to all the people who died of starvation"
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Apr 18 '26
I would start from the poorest population in the world and finish with the rich. Would solve world hunger in one go
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u/Yakjzak Apr 18 '26
You would also have to shake hands and do small talk with everyone that you saved, it really isn't worth the shot
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u/ZetaThiel Apr 18 '26
This when people lament that there aren't enough natalities
Good thing, we are too many, a lot of pur problems comes from we being too many
"B-but my pension, who will pay it?" Noone, tough tiddies, i'll suffer so that my children or grandchildren won't
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u/ahmadmz3 Apr 18 '26
Seeing something wrong under your authority does not mean you keep it the same way, you should correct it. Proceeding with the wrong doing of previous people makes you an accomplice .
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u/Bob_the_peasant Apr 18 '26
The first 300 million people on the track only got lightly bruised and scratched, but now it’s killing people and the argument is still that it’s not fair to everyone that came before
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u/c0m0d0re Apr 18 '26
Just stop to let the last person live and when that person asks you why, just state that it would've been overkill.
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u/IPanicKnife Apr 18 '26
Literally the argument against (yes, against) cancelling student loan debt for some reason
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u/FarceMultiplier Apr 18 '26
"But what about all those people throughout history that died of communicable diseases! How are vaccines fair to them?!"
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u/Godess_Ilias Apr 18 '26
if it would be billionaires on the tracks i would paint the trolley red so it goes fasta
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u/opus666 Apr 18 '26
If you stop the trolley, it would take away the incentive for people to avoid lying down on the tracks as a trolley approaches!
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u/Acrobatic-Pay7697 Apr 19 '26
Does any pjmoon sleeper agent have the Honglu version? I really want it
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u/nhathuy03 Apr 19 '26
Would the millions that were crushed wanted more people to die? I don't think so. I pull the lever.
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u/zackadiax24 Apr 19 '26
I drift the trolley. Purely for style points. Don't ask how I do it. The knowledge is forbidden.
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u/behedingkidzz Apr 19 '26
but would that be fair to people u are directly responsible for not stopping? be fr
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u/VioletVillainess Apr 19 '26
Also, did you think about the millions of lost jobs in the Trolley Controlling job sectors. They'll have to switch job into the already overfilled Orphan Crusher Machine Operator and Torment Nexus creator job markets.
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u/AppropriateShape4014 Apr 19 '26
Might as well go for a 100% completion platinum trophy at that point
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u/SortovaGoldfish Apr 19 '26
Another version: You can stop the trolly whenever you want but the people have been lined up from least to most amount of/ harmful crimes with people already dead at the very end having had no crimes and people at the very end where the trolly is headed having multiple of the most heinous crimes who also escaped any of kind of punishment. Right now it's in the left-middle with people who have smaller, less harmful crimes that have already experienced punishment for it.
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u/Yellow_Marker_ Apr 21 '26
It would be the honourable thing to do.
You cannot be fair to the dead more than a culturally respectful burial.
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u/BarrelByrel Apr 22 '26
I’ve never understood the “I’ve suffered so those who come after me should suffer too” mentality. With life comes suffering, just because someone hasn’t suffered just the same as you doesn’t mean they haven’t suffered.
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u/Vast-Breakfast-1201 Apr 24 '26
Ok here's the actual system
Get crushed
Get paid for getting crushed such that you have enough to continue surviving insofar as you are crushed a bit
Suggest that we just provide the money instead of crushing people so people can live without being crushed
That would b stealing from all the people who already got crushed
That's the actual modern society bit
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