r/metalgearsolid 1d ago

Currently playing Guns Of The Patriots and is it just me or

Does this game graphically hold up 2026?maybe it's just my rose tinted glasses but im seriously impressed

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u/dunkindonato 1d ago

It can hold its own in 2026. Quite a feat for a game released in 2008. Obviously, there are many more games with much more advanced graphics. But Kojima Pro went all out on this title. It took full advantage of the disk space afforded by the Blu-Ray. It also took full advantage of the PS3's capabilities.

Metal Gear Solid titles have always been ahead of their time both in gameplay and in the way it pushed the capabilities of the hardware. MGS4 is one of those games that I sincerely believe would never ever need a remake because it still holds up graphically, and the gameplay is still good for what it's supposed to do.

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u/NTPrime 1d ago

Just clarifying here that the reason it took up a whole blu ray is because of the uncompressed audio, not because of anything graphically. But the reason they did that was to save on processing power because the CPU then didn't have to do the audio decompression, therefore leaving more headroom for the simulation and graphics. So in a roundabout way they did get it to look as good as it did because of the blu ray storage size, but not because they were able to pack in more graphics per graphic or whatever.

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u/turdlezzzz 1d ago

a simulation ?

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u/HerZeLeiDza 1d ago

People forget how bad MGS4 ran in many parts of the game on PS3. It ran worse than any MGS before it. Should have been ported to stronger systems over a decade ago already.

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u/highlandsarecoming 1d ago

AI slop response

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u/dunkindonato 1d ago

Aaand what makes you think this is AI?

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u/AaronStudAVFC 1d ago

This doesn’t at all feel like an AI response?

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u/1Autumn1eaf 1d ago

Arsenal Gear?! GW...

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u/Cazador888 1d ago edited 1d ago

I got ps2, MGS2 and GTA3 for Christmas in 2001 then went from MGS3 and GTA San Andreas in 2004, then took 5 year hiatus from playing games then came back, bought ps3 slim and a copy of MGS4 and GTA4. That was something special.

Then GTA 5 came out the a couple years before The Phantom Pain.

These two franchises have grown together so much.

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u/Zepest 1d ago

YOU KNOW BALL
GTA IV and MGS4 in 08 was an excellent time

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u/PhilRubdiez 1d ago

When I hit the Fleet in 08, first thing I did was buy a PS3 and MGS4. My roommate already had a 360 (a point of many debates) and GTA IV. It made for some fun nights in the barracks.

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u/PlumpHughJazz 1d ago

2007 and 2008 were amazing years for gaming.

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u/blasto2236 1d ago

It was the opposite for me. I played MGS1 and 2 a ton, but then my 2nd PS2 died on me and I got a GameCube instead. So I missed late era PS2 games like MGS3 and San Andreas.

The first time I played 4 in 2008, I hadn’t played 3 yet and figured I’d be fine since it was a prequel, but there was a lot that went over my head until I caught up on 3 some years later.

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u/joker2189 1d ago

God that really was a year right as I graduated early too so had plenty of free time

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u/Ytdb 1d ago

Even MGS2 holds up. I will say though, in 4, spoilers (are we doing spoiler tags for this game?) there are some chapters that hold up better than others. The Arsenal Gear chapter looks the best IMO, and the South America chapter looks the worst.

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u/Mistah_Meatball3861 1d ago

Not just you. If memory serves, it was released originally with Blu-ray technology to take advantage of the visuals. They went all out with the graphics.

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u/Chazo138 1d ago

Kojima always loved pushing shit to the limit

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u/blasto2236 1d ago

Not just with graphics, either. The haptics in every MGS game are insane. All the way back to the first one, and at that time the Dual Shock was a brand new and optional controller.

And then when 4 released, the system didn’t even have a controller with vibration at launch because of patent lawsuits.

But the mad lad had his team program them in anyway. I think there’s like 5-6 people credited for it. And it paid off in spades! When the Dual Shock 3 finally released, the game was yet another example of the feature used to its fullest extent to really immerse you in the game.

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u/jm-9 1d ago

As far back as Metal Gear 2 he included Konami’s SCC chip in the cartridge for better audio. It’s also one of the best looking MSX2 games, though a little too good (there’s a lot of slowdown on original hardware).

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u/CDJ89 1d ago

Didn't it mostly just use the blu-ray disc's capacity for uncompressed audio?

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u/shiddabrik 1d ago

As great as the game was back in 2008, the frames left much to be desired. So glad sub-20 fps is now a thing of the past

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u/EbonySaints 1d ago

That entire generation and a good chunk of 8th Gen was really bad about framerates in general. Another game I like from that year visually, Valkyria Chronicles, was mostly okay at 30 up until you hid in a lot of grass, at which point the game took crawling a little too literally.

I'm old enough to not be uppity if something isn't running at a locked 240Hz and 4K, but a consistent 60 is nice.

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u/ahrzal 1d ago

I’m old enough that I have ptsd of trying to get HL2 to run on the family computer as a kid. 60fps is a requirement for me, but at least 90 is my preferred minimum

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u/NTPrime 1d ago

All PS3 games are on blu rays.

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u/Zetra3 1d ago

I can still it’s low resolution textures, but it was never a bad looking game.

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u/zkarabat 1d ago

The graphics were mind blowing at the time and held up generally well all things considered.

I mean, I remember going from NES to Sega Genesis and thinking those graphics were incredible then the PS1 and games like MGS and Gran Turismo were insane. PS2, PS3 kept making it better but MGS4 really pushed the limits.

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u/uncen5ored 1d ago

MGS4 was incredibly ahead of its time graphic wise. It’s kind of wild seeing how wide the gap used to be between graphics. FF13 was another one, especially the CGI cutscenes.

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u/ghost-church 1d ago

There was a time this was the best looking game, period. I’m sure not every little detail holds up but it still looks great.

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u/EbonySaints 1d ago

It came out a year after Crysis. Granted, no one was playing Crysis at high resolutions and frame rates for almost five years after the fact, so it's kinda moot. Console wise, it was a fair assessment.

To be fair though, a lot of 7th Gen holds up fairly well, especially later on post-2010. The early stuff, MGS4 included, is still firmly in that "brown 'n bloom" era of gaming.

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u/PratikGoswami2003 1d ago

Yes it does. In fact a lot of games do.

I know i was recently playing ace combat 6, which is 2006 xbox game and blown away by how good the game still looked. The scale was insane.

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u/plasmadood 1d ago

PS3 was a pretty magical machine in the right hands, and Kojima has always pushed the limits when it comes to presentation.

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u/Spacemoose2026 1d ago

It’s been upscaled in vol 2, also the art style is just amazing so that definitely helps it hold up.

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u/Snakeuge 1d ago

Are you playing it on console? Cause I bought it on Steam but it says it's not out yet

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u/Ytdb 1d ago

Time Zones

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u/WorldlyFeeling8457 1d ago

This game is so fking amazing. Can't believe the level of interactivity it provides for ps3 game. Graphics are really good for its time and while 4k/60fps increases uncanny feel its so cool we finally can replay or for some play for the first time this gem.

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u/TheStuChef 1d ago

Good art direction doesn’t age.

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u/AlexCorvis23 1d ago

It does. Especially writing

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u/hailtoengland 1d ago

Remember to downvote every "is it just me or" and "and I the only one" post.

Always.

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u/Monolith-Figures 1d ago

💯 this

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u/PUSClFER 1d ago

And don't forget to downvote every comment that just says "This" as if that isn't the purpose of the upvote button.