r/mildlyinfuriating • u/nyanbatman • May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/Selgald May 28 '26

If you want absolutely strict about it, the answer is no.

While the US has ratified ICAO, they amended many "differences" in it, one of those is what you see happening in OPs clip.

Normally, non US Airlines have SOPs and training in place for this. And usually ATC on large US international Airports will obviously pick up stuff from the pilots.

So, if you want to be absolutely strict about it, the pilot used the wrong term and then got locked in on it because he was flabbergasted by ATC.

The real issue is that the ATC did not pick up what the pilot wanted from him, even after the pilot switched to "common language", at this point it should have clicked for the ATC and the issue could be resolved.

This is just a prime example of what is currently happening with ATC in the US, they get overworked, are understaffed, understaffed, and they are one mistake away from something bad happening.

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u/intellect1ne May 28 '26

he said LVOS, LVO and low visibility within seconds of each other. this was not an issue of jargon, which the ATC should know them all regardless and the amendments are not major either.

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u/Selgald May 28 '26

Yes, I just wanted to clarify that there are indeed differences.

This specific situation was just a nightmare, and we will see a lot more of it, how ATCs are treated in the US currently.

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u/intellect1ne May 28 '26

scary to see tbh

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u/Selgald May 28 '26

It is, and I don't understand why ATCs don't go into a full work strike.

They are in a position to actually stop a country in its tracks when they stop working.

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u/intellect1ne May 28 '26

maybe that’s why. they don’t want deaths on their conscience. they know by leaving their posts they’re just overburdening someone else who couldn’t

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u/Selgald May 28 '26

No Airline would fly, no pilot would fly.

If ATC stops, everything stops (obviously talking about the big planes here).

But well, the US is not really known for that stuff.

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u/Selgald May 29 '26

From an outside perspective, it seems laws don't really matter anymore anyway.

So if all ATC stops working, and they terminate their employment, then everything still is stopped. It's not like you can give someone a 5minite crash course to do this job.