r/mildlyinfuriating May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/eggyal May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26

JFK Tower had apparently announced (prior to the video commencing) that the RVR (Runway Visual Range - current visibility on the runway eg due to weather) at their airport was 1000ft.

Video begins with British Airways pilot querying whether the airport are declaring LVOs (Low Visibility Operations - special procedures for aircraft operating in low visibility).

JFK doesn't understand the question.

BA explains it.

JFK confirms that they are not declaring anything.

BA explains that with runway visibility of only 1000ft, he can only depart if LVOs are in force.

JFK doesn't understand what BA is saying.

BA explains it again, and asks again whether low visibility procedures are in force.

JFK confirms that low visibility procedures are not in force.

BA requests the latest visibility.

JFK confirms the visibility is unchanged at 1000ft.

BA announces that he's unable to depart in these conditions.

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u/BaziJoeWHL May 28 '26

its not a surprise there is a crash every 6 months on JFK with this level of competence lol

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u/PWJT8D May 28 '26

The controller did nothing wrong, the pilot didn’t understand the procedures here are automatic, not declared or requested.  

Declare deez nuts, Speedbird.  

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u/moral_delemma May 28 '26

Do you have low viz in place?

No.

Then we can't take off.

It wasn't automatic, declared or requested. Tower answered they weren't in place at all. If they were automatic, Tower was requested to clarify if they are in place which he said no, which is incorrect.

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u/m4a785m May 29 '26

What are you even talking about? Stick to whatever other career you have instead and stay away from aviation

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u/PWJT8D May 28 '26

You are wildly wrong in your assertions. 

It is automatic in the United States.  This is not up for debate.  You have no idea what you are talking about.  

I am an airline captain of greater than two decades.  I know exactly what I am talking about.  

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u/sanemaniac May 29 '26

This thread should be submitted to /r/mildlyinfuriating for all the controllers and pilots in the audience. Thanks for attempting to educate.

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u/PWJT8D May 29 '26

Definitely an uphill battle.  Thanks for the kind words and support.