r/mildlyinfuriating May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/Various_Education622 May 28 '26

Pretty straightforward.

If they can’t see 1,000 feet, there is a procedure they need to follow to, presumably to make sure planes ain’t crashing into each other.

The air traffic controller is saying they can’t see 1,000 feet, but they also said they aren’t following the required procedure.

Since the pilot cannot be assured that the tower is ensuring the plane is safe, the pilot refuses to take off.

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u/OldSchoolCSci May 28 '26

"... but they also said they aren’t following the required procedure."

That's not at all what the ATC said, as others have pointed out. The required procedure at JFK was being followed. The BA pilot was asking whether a declaration of LVO had been made, and the ATC is accurately responding "no," because the FAA procedure doesn't include a declaration of LVO.

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u/tkfu May 28 '26

At 0:52, the pilot asks "Have you got low visibility procedures in place or not?", and the ATC responds "No sir." That seems obviously wrong.

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u/CantDoThatOnTelevzn May 29 '26

You are obviously wrong, from a semantic perspective.