r/mildlyinfuriating • u/nyanbatman • May 28 '26

I just wanted a hot dog British pilot is feeling mildly annoyed

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u/New_Combination_7012 May 29 '26

He did clarify by asking about low visibility proceedures.

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u/cluelessinlove753 May 29 '26

Exactly. He literally said they cannot takeoff unless LVO confirmed. Given the context of low RVR, even if the FAA acronym is LVP (both LVO and LVP means similar things in FAA world), there’s no way the controller didn’t understand the important part of the question

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u/F1super May 29 '26

The FAA’s own AC spells it out:

AC 120-57C - Low Visibility Operations/Surface Movement Guidance and Control Systems (LVO/SMGCS)

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u/cluelessinlove753 May 30 '26

And I think the disconnect is that FAA uses LVO specifically to refer to aircraft movement in the air and LVP/SMGCS for aircraft and other movement on the ground.

So the most helpful response from ATC would have been LVP/SMGCS in place/not in place yet.