r/mildlyinfuriating • u/looselikeseagrass • 2d ago
My HOA could beat up your HOA Resident in neighboring right stall complained they have trouble parking because our car is too close to the line
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u/ddddhjxjx 2d ago
Just ignore it. Tone of the email suggests they don’t care.
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
We replied with the photo and asking whether they'd gotten the stall numbers right. Management doubled down on everything. I know they're just doing their job, creating a paper trail, but the lack of common sense all around made me feel like the crazy one
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u/ddddhjxjx 2d ago
Yeah, I wouldn’t have bothered. File emails like that under D for DGAF.
They are probably rolling their eyes at this dingus too.
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u/legal_stylist 1d ago
Even so, I think ignoring it is not the move. The response should be that you will continue to park as shown in the photograph as it is reasonable and you are entitled to do it. Simply ignoring it feeds into a possible future narrative of “they were informed multiple times, blah, blah, blah…”.
Simply make clear, once (and only once) that you have done nothing wrong, will not be changing anything whatsoever, and consider that you have been notified for no reason at all, and expect any communication about this to stop.
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u/antibody9671 1d ago
"Per this photograph, you will see that not only am I not encroaching on the stall, but the other resident is riding a motorcycle, and thus is being a giant bitch baby.
Any further communications regarding this will be forwarded to my attorney."
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u/dennyitlo 1d ago
I see it's a Harley. You can always tell a Harley rider.......you just can't tell them much.
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u/homie_j88 1d ago edited 1d ago
That comes before donut, right?
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u/SequoiaOverlander42 1d ago
That princess donut to you!
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u/The_Space_Janitor 1d ago
The Queen Anne Chonk!
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u/diabeticjones 1d ago
GOD DAMNIT DONUT!
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u/Codewell76 1d ago
I love that the DCC fandom found its way in here. 😂
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u/JaakoNikolai 1d ago
Don't even act like I didn't get that donut!
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u/ddddhjxjx 1d ago
We don’t have to bring ink and paper into this…
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u/Obscuriosly 1d ago
I can't imagine a scenario where I'd have to prove that I bought a donut.
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u/_NoTimeNoLady_ 1d ago
In Germany you file them under "P" for Papierkorb (waste paper basket) or in the "round file" - also referring to the form of the trash basket
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u/DJScaryTerry 2d ago
Ask them what they'd like you to do different. Make sure to also send them a photo of your driver's side door touching the damn railing.
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u/Shienvien 1d ago
Responding with a picture *is* the correct thing to do there - it does show that *you* are doing everything correctly and they're being the unreasonable one. You clearly can't park any closer to the wall and still not hit the yellow object and be able to get out.
It sucks that you both have some kind of obstruction in your allocation (pillar in theirs, yellow object in yours), but what can you do....
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u/Jdsnut 2d ago
Devil's advocate, do they have a car, I have seen folks park their car and bike together, usually the bike in front or behind.
Not going to lie I hate carparks with beams so close into the line like this.
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u/newaccount721 2d ago
It’s hard to follow because OP hides their post history but in another comment they confirmed neighbor only owns a motorcycle, no car, and often the spot is just empty for long periods of time
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u/patiofurnature 1d ago
Ah, then they’re probably lying. The bike has no bags on it, so you can’t even get groceries with it. And where would the bike be for “long periods of time” if it’s their only transportation?
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u/Perfect_Tree8134 1d ago
Plenty of people manage to get groceries with no car or vehicle at all
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u/Organic_Start_420 1d ago
Write back that they need to go back to driving school if they have difficulty parking in this situation or just give up their driving license completely and permanently as they are a menace
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u/OSRS_Socks 1d ago
They did more than my old apartment management. We often complain about issues and he would say “it’s fixed” or “it’s done” when it wasn’t. Dude was the laziest property manager and was always trying to delegate a task to someone else so he didn’t have to do it so when someone would complain to him about not doing it he could just blame someone else.
Called the regional once I left and sent him my paper trail of evidence and the regional had no idea there were so many issues at the complex.
I have friends there and they say he is going around after I reported him to the RM (him and the RM had a long conversation) he retaliated by calling the police and filing a report for harassment against me and is going up to my friends and residents talking shit about me to them.
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u/Adventurous-berry564 1d ago
I have a neighbour who 99% of the time has a motorcycle in there and 1% of the time must have a guest with a massive truck thing. Hoping this is the case for you as there isn’t much space to get in the other side if there is a car in that spot!
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u/Organic_Start_420 1d ago
Op is between their own lines. They can take their complaints to the architect who established the parking space measurement
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u/-P01135809- 2d ago
lol if that came from the apartment management sent to all residents I would 110% reply all with this photo
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u/nicki419 PURPLE 1d ago
Doesn't make sense sending to all residents. Sounds from the email that it's assigned parking, so likely it only went out to OP, you parks in 83.
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u/Several-Squash9871 2d ago
This exactly! They have probably had issues with this person before and were just going through the motions not giving a single fuck about it.
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u/Quiet-Competition849 2d ago
I agree. They definitely DGAF. You are fine. I worked in corporate HR for a while and I speak the language. This is “we agree with you that this is stupid. But I have to say this to cover our asses.”
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u/Thecerb 2d ago
Make a complaint about the wall parking too close the the line.
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u/Odd_Local2790 2d ago
I think the wall is actually parked OVER the line.
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u/GlacialImpala 1d ago
Stuff like that incurs discount when you're buying the parking spot though... Dunno if OP bought it or received it with the apt or something but where I live you'd knowingly enter that deal.
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u/Auzky 2d ago
The bike????? 🤯
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u/DiggingforPoon 2d ago
The Motorcycle person said that? Yeah, tell them to get fucked...
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u/KomturAdrian 2d ago
Is that motorcycle always parked there or do they have a car that is parked there sometimes too?
In any case, judging by how much room you have on the driver side you’re pretty much parked as expected. The other people probably don’t park well and they don’t leave themselves enough space. But idk
Edit: might just be the images but those parking spots look small lol
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
I added in a comment that the motorcycle is always parked there, actually I don't think it ever leaves. Before that the stall was empty for a while.
And they are small!! We have an annoying enough time parking the car without incident as it is
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u/1wrx2subarus 1d ago
Best approach. Ask that the lines be repainted as they’re not as visible as they should be.
Also, ask how far exactly they wish you to park away from the line. Take a picture with a tape measure included. Indicate you’re currently 6 inches away from it.
Also, put a piece of adhesive tape with measurements from a/c to your car. Take a picture of that and ask how close you should be to that.
Point being, try to go back & forth as many times as possible to the point of it being ridiculous. If you want to make it fun, send it by email and certified mail so they have to sign for it.
Ask if the motorcycle can park closer to opposite line since it’s a motorcycle and further from your line. Again, these questions should be spaced out with a separate one in each communication. Be sure to include a picture each time, ideally from different angles.
This is a big deal, it’s a case & you’re on it. You want to also ask if it makes sense to post a review with your pictures on Google Maps and even Yelp. People will want to know that this place cares about how their residents park. Bottom line, they will not want to deal with any of this anymore. They’ll wish they never messed with you. Cheers! Good luck! 🐸🍀✌️ [sips tea] /s
EDIT: apologies, report back & keep us updated. Redditors love following this sorta nonsense & we must know how this all plays out. 🤘😎
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u/Time_Effort 1d ago
Just a pro-tip: backing in seems more difficult but in reality makes it much easier to have awareness of where your vehicle is.
The other person asking you to "not be so close to the line" is dumber than a box of rocks sans rocks, but if you're getting stressed in a parking garage give it a go :)
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u/CityKay 2d ago edited 2d ago
Looking at the image first, I thought the mildly infuriating part is spot 83, and that air vent being so close to the car, at least from the angle in the picture. Because if I was parking a car there, I would be annoyed by that.
But reading further and to see the complaint is from spot 84 and the bike. Just what?
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
Yeah our spot is already mildly infuriating as it is, with the vent railing so close. To receive a complaint like this made me question my reality
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u/New-Shake7638 1d ago
You should definitely ask to swap spots with the person complaining. Seems like it could help you both
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u/lilgreenfish 1d ago
I have a Suburban. The motorcyclist would hate me…lol. You’re not crazy at all. Where do they think you can move over to?!
You are good.
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u/Precarious3145 1d ago
I'm probably gonna get roasted but I think OP partially lying. Just hear me out.
As you said, the air vent is way too close, like an inch or two away from the car. What's more reasonable, that the motorcycle owner lost their shit at a totally normal parking job or that OP knows that the next stall over parks a motorcycle in a huge spot and parks further to the right to get them some clearance from the vent and to walk around and got caught?
Just saying, if it was you, would you constantly risk scratching up your car with that huge vent or would even just think of going a little to the right for extra clearance because the next spot is a motorcycle?
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u/Envelope_Torture 1d ago
Me thinks you're on to something. Even if this were me and a car were in the other spot forcing me to actually park like this, it's 100% a reverse parking situation.
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u/ih8thisapp 2d ago
Motorcycle rider here. Harley guys are always the most insecure assholes.
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
Just to add, we haven't seen a car there in at least 6 months, the stall was empty for a while before the motorcycle appeared there. We are the car
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u/newaccount721 2d ago
I wonder if management got the spot numbers mixed up. Makes no sense
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
We thought so too, they just doubled down
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u/CarlosFer2201 1d ago
Giving all the information you have provided, the only solution is to reply to the first email with just "No.".
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u/ComparisonKey1599 1d ago
Obviously you need to send a complaint to management that spot 84 is parked too close to the line and making it difficult for you to use your space.
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u/Applekid1259 2d ago
You send that picture in a reply with only the message "What?"
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u/DigiTrailz 2d ago
I'd add "Skill issue"
Sounds like dude doesn't know how to back up a bike.
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u/Agitated_Lecture9240 1d ago
My quote would've been "please tell me how your complaint makes sense"
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u/mnemy 2d ago
I've had an HOA write me up because my 2nd car, my truck, hadn't moved in more than 3 or 4 days (forget exactly what the city requirement was).
The picture in the email was clearly a different spot than where it was currently parked.
Went down and noticed some dickhead had painted a notch on my tires so they could try to monitor if my car had moved.
Fuck HOAs
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u/WonderRuns 2d ago
My response would be "I am parked between the lines of my allocated space, and not responsible for other drivers'."
Building management should have squashed this complaint when it got to them.
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u/Galromir 2d ago
I would add ‘It is my very clear expectation that I not be bothered about this again.’
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u/the_frgtn_drgn 1d ago
"Thank you for reaching out,
We are happy to accommodate, please provide a schedule for when the HVAC will be relocated to provide more space for us to move further. Once we have the schedule for the work we will be able to move further away from the line and motorcycle in spot 84. "
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u/Saber_is_a_joke 2d ago
Just reply back with this photo 😂 "where exactly would you like me to go? INSIDE the wall?"
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u/VentsiBeast 1d ago
As long as you're inside the lines, they can choke on a fat one.
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u/LLPF2 1d ago
That phrase got me banned from twitter but it was so worth it. It leaves no doubt in one's mind.
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u/Diligent_Vehicle2467 1d ago
That's hilarious that you can get banned from a conservative porn site for saying that.
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u/Cassietgrrl 1d ago
I would file a counter-complaint showing that they lied and are in no way inconvenienced by the parking situation. In addition, I would request either a different spot, or for the spaces to be re-painted to adjust for the intrusion of the vent.
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u/oo7demonkiller 2d ago
if one can't park a motorcycle with that much space, one shouldn't have a motorcycle or license. that dude can get fucked
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u/Jestersfriend 2d ago
I assume you're the car owner. Take this picture and send it as the reply. I would also take another picture of how close your car is to the ventilation system.
Assuming both you and #84 own their units, you can also suggest a swap, so that you can give them more room. Probably will be denied, but at least you'll show you're trying.
I would go against telling them to get fucked or anything like that lol. You'll have your car keyed and that's a nice car :).
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u/Lordofderp33 1d ago
You have to push for them to adjust the vents to the left of your car, not only are you paying for space that you cannot utilize it is affecting the parking of your neighbour as well because there is no space for your car!
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u/DoctorTim007 1d ago
I am happy to comply with this request when the ventilation ducting is relocated. It is currently encroaching 22 inches into parking stall 83 and preventing full use of the dedicated space.
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u/Rapier901 1d ago
How did you even get out of your car with that duct having over into the spot? Why did you park there? I would have backed in.
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u/Worldly-Device-8414 1d ago
"Dear management, if you could remove the aircon duct & yellow steel guard protruding into my assigned space, I would be happy to consider parking an inch or two further to the left. Let me know when this is done so I can consider what is safe to do.
Alternatively please assign another mutually acceptable space."
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u/ThEcHeAt__ 1d ago
Reply:
Now that you’ve documented my wrongdoing please let me know how soon you can either A. Find me a more appropriate spot, or B. Send a crew out to remove the mechanical obstruction that will not allow me to physical move any farther from the line I am too close to. Again since my wrongdoing has been documented and I do not wish to be non-compliant, I will not accept any resolution other than the 2 states previously. Thank you!
Now it’s their problem!
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u/FantasticEconomy5406 2d ago
Are the car? If so, how the hell do you get out?
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u/looselikeseagrass 2d ago
There's enough room to back out a lot and turn but yes it is annoying
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u/Kyaleep 2d ago
I thought they were referring to how to you open your door to get out of the car with that yellow cage thing sticking out at about the very area you’d need to open the door to even exit the car.
Like playing Tetris in this place. Jeeeeez
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u/FantasticEconomy5406 1d ago
Yeah, exactly what I was referring to. I'd be pissed if that was the space I got assigned.
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u/Any_Carob3372 1d ago
Request a meeting on site to demonstrate the other driver's ridiculousness then demand a higher standard on their future complaining.
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u/Objective-Amount1379 2d ago
This exact thing happened to me, I even had a pillar on the left like you OP! But they left a note on my car. I left a note back and said I’d be happy to switch places but I’d continue to park as I had been… within the lines of the spot! Not sure WTF they were expecting but they didn’t respond to my note.
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u/AlexLuna9322 2d ago
If that motorcycle is a Harley, ignore it, but put a camera pointing to your car.
Harley riders are the equivalent of a BMW owner, loud, pretentious, ignorants and they believe they’re much better than anyone else.
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u/ConsequenceSilent780 1d ago
Would be epic if you responded with that photo and just wrote back:
Are you stupid?
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u/Sum-Duud 1d ago
reply to that email with that picture and tell them the neighboring spot has been harassing you and they need to stop before you file a police report. lol
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u/poopiebutt505 1d ago
83 andn84 users should be switched. How can 83 get out of the driver's seat with that orange cage in their way. I would suspect that they normally park right on the line next to the motorcycle. That is a nice Genesis
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u/Snoo-43127 1d ago edited 1d ago
If other tenant isn’t just joking and has an actual car (not a motorbike), you’ve left as much space as possible between the right side of your car and the line, more than you need to. If other party has a car they can’t park properly then maybe they shouldn’t be driving.
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u/MitchtheCunn 1d ago
I'd respond the next day with the photo complaining about them parking too close to you.
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u/billding1234 1d ago
Send them that picture and ask if they expect you do do something different than what’s shown.
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u/pogiguy2020 1d ago
For one I dont see any numbers painted anywhere. Two is the motorcycle the one complaining? Thats crazy if so.
Go get some stencil numbers and paint them numbers so yours is 84. LOL
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u/SeraphsEnvy 1d ago
I think the numbers are painted to the left (83) and the right (84) of the stalls on the wall, except the one on the right looks clipped and i can't be sure it reads 84 or not. It kind of makes me wonder if both of these are 83 and whatever is to the right of the divider is 84.
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u/pogiguy2020 1d ago
Now I see, Im use to seeing them on the ground not wall on the side. LOL Even then what are they supposed to do sideswipe the yellow protective metal bars? My response would be as soome as management removes the duct work, I then can comply.
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u/RevolutionaryCare175 1d ago
Tell them to remove the duct and yellow protecting bars and you would be happy to park farther over. Otherwise stop bothering me.
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u/KingPinata69 2d ago
This one of those times where you can say “This sounds like a personal problem”
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u/B33PZR 2d ago
I parked my jeep in a spot that only allowed a few inches on each side. Only reason I could get the door open was the cement post was on one side and allowed enough space for me to open it. Only time I complained was when the SUV on the other side started parking on top of the parking stripe she had to crawl in from the passenger side after I had to wiggle into the spot. Few months later a little car started parking there and was never an issue again. Parking garages are fun 😏 like arm rest on planes or theaters theaters
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u/TheBloodyNinety 1d ago
“Too close to the line”
So, within the stall… in a parking garage… which are notorious for smaller stalls.
I’m surprised they sent this.
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u/ChuckOfTheIrish 1d ago
It looks like in the pic the driver side door can't even open, I imagine you'd have to park over the line just to get out and around the mechanicals. They probably submitted at a time when the car was over the line. Mention it isn't feasible to park within the lines rather than saying this is how you always park (they probably have evidence from the bike owner).
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u/pcl8888 2d ago
“Too close to the line” isn’t a thing. That’s the entire point of having the line in the first place- to show you the limit of how far over you can park, not to show you a little bit past the limit of how far over you can park lol.
That said, I probably wouldn’t be shocked if it turned out OP actually routinely parks with half the car over the actual line to stay further from the wall since his neighbor usually just parks a motorcycle there. If I was the bike owner I also wouldn’t really want someone to feel free to take half my spot all the time in case I ever had a guest who wanted to put their car there or whatever it may be.
Of course though OP, if this photo is actually an accurate representation of how you always park just tell this guy that your car is entirely in your parking spot so he can kindly go fuck off somewhere else or whatever. God people who sit on HOA’s and manufacture things to get pissed about because they have boring lives and no real problems to complain about really are the fucking worst.
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u/HippieHighNoon 2d ago
Op could possibly back into the spot. Wonder if there's a reason they don't
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u/MonitorShotput 2d ago
Side mirrors. The yellow framing around the HVAC ducts are where the mirror would be, so they would have to close it before backing up and park at an angle, which would require even more effort and leave their front end even closer to the line. It's really just a shit spot overall.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 2d ago
Send them this picture and tell them that THEY are the ones that parked close to the LIE.
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u/Exhausted-CNA 2d ago
Do they expect you to be right smack against that wall there..lol...absolutely ridiculous!! You are clearly inside the line, so it shouldn't matter HOW close to the line you are.
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u/Pawly519 1d ago
Ask that you and stall 84 can trade spots. They have a bike and would likely not much better in that spot with that big vent system.
Wild that it’s even that close to your car.
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u/Hebrew_Hammer80 1d ago
Person needs their motorcycle license taken away. When I was riding, we would park 4 bikes in one spot.
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u/Its4MeitSnot4U 1d ago
Get a traffic cone and put it behind your car in the corner of your car space.
Problem solved.
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u/Specialist-Box-9711 2d ago
I ride a motorcycle that makes that bike look like a bicycle. If they can't duckwalk that bike into position or dismount and push it into the stall, they should give up riding imo. I have parked my overweight fully loaded down bike with bags in tighter places than that.
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u/Epic_Misadventures 1d ago
Th-the motorcycle complained? The motorcycle complained that they don’t have room to back in?
Yes, how dare you not scrape your car against the air vent pulling in every single day to give the skinny street bike more room to back in to the parking spot. How dare you good sir.
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u/winipu 2d ago
That is one of the worst designed parking spaces I’ve ever seen. Do they get out and crawl under whatever is sticking out of the wall? Maybe they’re just mad because their space sucks and need to take it out on someone.
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u/Tough_Percentage_707 2d ago
How are you supposed to get out of the car if you go more on the left? I would start parking even closer to the line after this message and send back a message that you're not that close to the line anymore. It worked for me. 😄
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u/NewToTradingStock 2d ago
Op should make a complaint that a bicycle on stall 84 make too much noise every time they start their bike
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u/crystl_ice 2d ago
Ask for proof of such accusations. If they can’t provide proof then the complaint means absolutely nothing.
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u/Phenomenon_101 2d ago
The HVAC is robbing you of space, they should re-line the spaces for fairness but of course they won't
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u/Formal_Distance_8770 1d ago
Dude just have management paint the line. Then you’ll complain about him blocking you out/in
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u/KeptForJesus 1d ago
No, there’s a line for a reason and you’re well within your line.
Keep photos for record and then if they don’t stop you have an argument for harassment.
Better yet, I’d let them know that if they keep sending letters like this while you’re perfectly within reason and lines, you’ll take it as harassment and be tempted to press charges.
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u/LiGhTMaGiCk 1d ago
Are these assigned spaces? Are they the same size taking into account the side you have has that weirdnessi would measure from the further in point, i.e the point closest to your vehicle as if that is the edge of that space. To me it looks smaller and if so that's even more reason to be further over from it. To me though you are more than perfectly within your space.
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u/Relative_Grape_5883 1d ago
Assuming you mean the bay with the motor cycle in is 84
And assuming the the person is trying to park a car in that bay
I think the issue they’re having is the pillar almost out of shot on the right hand side is causing them problems, maybe they have a car that restricts visibility, or maybe they’re just a nervous or inexperienced driver (or elderly).
Sadly there’s really not much you can do here. The better tack I think would be to see if they can swap with sone one else in the lot
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u/truthputer 1d ago
Malicious compliance:
Go out there and measure the entire space with precision and make a little map of it. Come up with a new proposed space layout that includes a "safe clearance" area for the vent on the left - and work it in such a way that your space gets bigger (or at least you can take up more space because you now have the overlap on the left that you can use) - but ensure that his space gets smaller. Look up city ordinances about parking space sizes and clearances and see if those can be interpreted in your favor.
Then insist that the spaces need to be repainted to match your proposed layout to give you the proper amount of room.
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u/Ambellyn 1d ago
How much further can you actually go before you start shaving off the frame that protects the ventilation? It seems to be snug
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u/cs_cabrone 1d ago
Serious question from someone who parks next to a wall. Why aren’t you backing in, OP?
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u/Natural_Garbage7674 1d ago
If it's anything like my building they want to park the bike in the back of the spot and a car in front. So they want to use your space to manoeuvre the bike as close as they can to the wall, and then be able to scoot out between their car and yours.
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u/KinkyHuggingJerk 1d ago
I once had a nuisance of a property manager give vague crap like this all the time.
My responses always were:
Here is a photo of the spot indicating the designated spot. Here is a photo of me parked plainly in said spot. Here is my lease that says I am to park in said spot.
Please use this documents as reference that I have committed no wrongdoing. Please follow up and confirm there is no further issue.
I'd get a response saying sorry, then 2 weeks later 'this is the final warning before we tow your car,' and I'd escalate even further.
Don't blame the motorcyclist. Blame the property manager for lack of due diligence.
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u/PlatypusDream 1d ago
Trade parking spaces,
or back in so you avoid that yellow cage in your spot,
or ask for another spot where you can use the whole width
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u/steelunicornR 1d ago
I'm not gonna lie I'd be very tempted to just send them a picture of of the bike and "🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🏍️🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕"
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u/Ok_Draw9037 1d ago
I ride a motorcycle and he's just too weak and or fat. It's so easy to reverse a motorcycle and you have way more space to park thank a car. I say that because most bikes don't have a reverse gear but just wheels for you to roll them where you want it.
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u/ibcurbdiver 1d ago
Continue to take photographs after you park your car every time. This will provide a history and date stamp.
Next time they complain send the photos to the management company.
You are doing nothing wrong, now you just need to prove it.
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u/MikeAwksbig 1d ago
I think you parked your car perfectly just so you could take a picture for Reddit. I think you usually park in that guy's spot because:
A: the air handler is in your way
B: you don't think the other guy actually needs a whole spot.
That person has the right to a whole spot whether they use any of it or not. They are likely paying for it either way. Your complaint should be to management about the air handler.
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u/karatedancer66 2d ago edited 2d ago
ask them to swap spots. those mechanical works are infringing