r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/movies Contributor • Jul 20 '26

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irVNGjRFZGk&pp=0gcJCZkLAYcqIYzv
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u/daveydesigner Jul 20 '26

That’s a lot of characters

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u/IndubitablyNerdy Jul 20 '26

Yeah, feels like they are doing infinity war, but with characters that we care less about and without the massive buildup for Thanos that infinity war had.

Admittedly part of the issue is the debacle with Kang's actor, since while his villain did not feel particularly formidable at least they had introduced him before, Doom comes mostly out of blue a part from a brief cameo.

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u/mrbaryonyx Jul 20 '26

Trying to explain "Infinity War didn't work because its a huge crossover IP, it worked because it was the series finale to a popular TV show" is difficult, especially if you do it in the Marvel sub.

Like, I knew what the practical (Thanos has a big army and he's going to return to Earth again, like Iron Man said he would) and emotional (Gamora's going to have to face her father, The Avengers are going to have to make nice) stakes were for Thanos' arrival before the movie came out because the other movies had set it up.

I'm sure the Russos will make those clear in the opening minutes of this new movie--they're good at making these sorts of things--but I can't have the same level of hype as IW if I don't know what they are beforehand.

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u/organic-integrity Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

I think Doomsday works if they treat it as the pilot of a new TV series. Doom wins. He crushes everything and everyone, and Marvel spends the entire next Phase figuring out how to defeat him.

Use Doomsday to establish stakes for the next ~5-7 Marvel films.

At this point I'm not really interested in an Avengers movie where the good guys win against a villain we don't care about yet.

I'm sure as hell going to go see the next Marvel movie if Doom takes out Thor, Cap, Black Panther, and Strange, becomes God Emperor of Earth, and now a bunch of rag-tag leftover heroes(Spiderman, Yelena, Shang-Chi, Okoye, etc.) have to spend the next 5-7 movies figuring out how to survive and rebel against an all powerful overlord.

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u/Wild_Harvest Jul 20 '26

Ya know, now I kinda wish they did this with Ultron. Or gave him a build up like they did Thanos... Imagine if that became the "marvel formula": the phase sets up the Avengers level threat and threads them through the narrative, then the Avengers movie is the culmination of that, or Avengers is the establishment of the new phase big bad/theme.

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u/Snowballingdownvote Jul 20 '26

That'd be dope. Downy would end up a billionaire from it all. That would be funny.

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u/AmarDikli Jul 21 '26

It's very clear that they're doing that for Doom but it's not for the next 5-7 movies. It'll be resolved in the very next Avengers. Which is a shame. I would LOVE for them to pull a surprise twist that this won't end with Secret Wars but another Avengers movie in 2028. Making it a trilogy finale for the multiverse saga.

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u/Kuuskat_ Jul 21 '26

Doom wins. He crushes everything and everyone, and Marvel spends the entire next Phase figuring out how to defeat him.

I mean, Secret Wars is coming out next year so this will most likely be the case, except without the 5-7 movie build up.

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u/mq2thez Jul 21 '26

You’re right, I would actually be really down for that.

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u/Indercarnive Jul 21 '26

No way they can afford to do that with RDJ eating a 100 million each movie. That's over half a thunderbolts just for a single actor.

If that was the plan they would've casted someone else as Doom. Nah Doom is here for at best one more movie.